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  • #11
    It's just an algorithm that weighs resumes, wins and losses. It's not a true "pound for pound" ranking.

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    • #12
      Originally posted by j0zef View Post
      It's just an algorithm that weighs resumes, wins and losses. It's not a true "pound for pound" ranking.
      What's wrong with a system that uses objective criteria?

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      • #13
        Originally posted by BostonGuy View Post
        What's wrong with a system that uses objective criteria?
        The criteria may not be appropriate.

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        • #14
          Originally posted by Dr Rumack View Post
          The criteria may not be appropriate.
          Example??....

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          • #15
            Originally posted by BostonGuy View Post
            Example??....
            Allocating points on the basis of how long a fighter's pubic hair is. Objective, but not appropriate.

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            • #16
              Originally posted by HughJass View Post
              Boxrec have Canelo as p4p number 1 lolol

              http://boxrec.com/records?reset=1&sex=m
              Well they have Andre Ward at 22, But it should be Kovalev

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              • #17
                Originally posted by BostonGuy View Post
                What's wrong with a system that uses objective criteria?
                The criteria used may not be a good indicator of what its trying to measure.

                Using the strength of the resume is a great way of measuring accomplishments, but it has little to do with a fighter's p4p ranking, which is an attempt to measure a fighter's worth if everyone weighted the same.

                As a simple example, when #1 and #2 ranked fighters fight each other, the loser often drops down several spots, but it truly has nothing to do with other fighters.

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by HughJass View Post
                  I'm not too sure if i'm being honest.Tyson...Kovalev...GGG?

                  Who do you think?
                  TYSON????? TYSON FURY!!!!!?????????????

                  You've got to be kidding me.

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by j0zef View Post
                    The criteria used may not be a good indicator of what its trying to measure.

                    Using the strength of the resume is a great way of measuring accomplishments, but it has little to do with a fighter's p4p ranking, which is an attempt to measure a fighter's worth if everyone weighted the same.

                    As a simple example, when #1 and #2 ranked fighters fight each other, the loser often drops down several spots, but it truly has nothing to do with other fighters.
                    The criteria can be appropriate and objective but still not be measured or weighted in a way that makes for a logical ranking. It makes sense that aspects of a fighter's resume would be used to determine their P4P status but it is not a given how that should actually be computed. Canelo got a lot more points than would seem logical for Lopez and Mosley - sure it's objective to say he won those fights but it isn't obvious how much those wins should matter. Trout and Cotto on the other hand were genuinely good wins, but I don't think they should make him the P4P #1.

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by _Maxi View Post
                      TYSON????? TYSON FURY!!!!!?????????????

                      You've got to be kidding me.
                      Fury just defeated the p4p #1 fighter.

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