"Remember, Remember, the 8th of December"

[IR0NFIST]

They don't have exactly the same style but they share many of the same fundamentals. Including fighting off the back foot and shooting when your opponent leaves his guard open. There was a reason why Floyd was the favorite in this fight. With age comes experience but with age you also lose mobility and reflexes. If Marquez was able to win three fights after losing to Floyd how is the version that beat Pacquiao superior to the version that Floyd beat? Since beating Pacquiao Marquez lost to Bradley and got knocked on his ass by Mike Alvarado! Since then he has been inactive with injuries.

Are you implying that Floyd fought a better version of Marquez than Pacquiao did?

[Mr. 29K]

DAMN..... can't believe it's been 3 yrs.

[Johnwoo8686]

Are you implying that Floyd fought a better version of Marquez than Pacquiao did?

The version that Floyd fought went onto win more fights including a KO win over Manny. The version that Manny fought hasn't done **** in boxing since. YOu do the math.

[b00g13man]

I'd say anyone who didn't consider the possibility that Pac was dead is a liar. He didn't move an inch for like 2 or 3 minutes.

Agreed. I was genuinely concerned for a few minutes. Nobody wants to see that in the ring, or anywhere for that matter.

[IR0NFIST]

The version that Floyd fought went onto win more fights including a KO win over Manny. The version that Manny fought hasn't done **** in boxing since. YOu do the math.

Reading your attempts at making a flawed argument seem reasonable is pure comedy. You truly believe that drinking urine and throwing rocks around better prepared Marquez for a high level boxing match than hiring a S&C coach, doing scientifically proven workouts, and taking performance enhancing supplements.

There's no point in continuing this debate any further, it's become sadly apparent that you're a Floyd nuthugger.

[STAX ON DECK]

Reading your attempts at making a flawed argument seem reasonable is pure comedy. You truly believe that drinking urine and throwing rocks around better prepared Marquez for a high level boxing match than hiring a S&C coach, doing scientifically proven workouts, and taking performance enhancing supplements.

There's no point in continuing this debate any further, it's become sadly apparent that you're a Floyd nuthugger.

any proof of this??u know its bannable to lie about that stuff right?

[LoadedWraps]

You seem to have a hard time understanding the common boxing maxim "styles make fights", it should also be noted that counter punchers tend to have a longer shelf life, so your attempt to contribute age as a factor is sadly misplaced.

Once again, the Marquez that Pacquiao faced was superior to the one Floyd fought in EVERY aspect. Only Floyd's most serious nuthuggers would think otherwise.

While everything you said is true, that doesn't diminish the schooling Floyd gave JMM, one of the greatest combination punchers in history.

For the record, for you new cats, I am/was a fan of both Dinamita and PBF, so don't be accusing me of bias.

[Johnwoo8686]

Reading your attempts at making a flawed argument seem reasonable is pure comedy. You truly believe that drinking urine and throwing rocks around better prepared Marquez for a high level boxing match than hiring a S&C coach, doing scientifically proven workouts, and taking performance enhancing supplements.

There's no point in continuing this debate any further, it's become sadly apparent that you're a Floyd nuthugger.

Talk about a flawed argument. You present an opinion as fact without any hard evidence to prove your claims other than ere su****ion. That to me proves YOU are a nut hugger. You think what you see on 24/7 is an accurate example of what actually goes on in a fighters camp. You are childish.

[STAX ON DECK]

lol he deleted his post....smh

i wonder how he feels about roach snitching on pac saying that ariza used to give him some very "su****ious" drinks and substances

must mean its tru right?

[IR0NFIST]

Talk about a flawed argument. You present an opinion as fact without any hard evidence to prove your claims other than ere su****ion. That to me proves YOU are a nut hugger. You think what you see on 24/7 is an accurate example of what actually goes on in a fighters camp. You are childish.

any proof of this??u know its bannable to lie about that stuff right?

I'm not accusing Marquez of drinking protein shakes and taking vitamins, it's a well known fact.

http://www.livestrong.com/article/10...est-meal-ever/

“When he was at the track at 6 a.m. doing exercises, he drank a protein shake from my line of supplements created with a formula for athletes available at Ringside Promotions. These were mixed with water or lactose-free milk within 30 minutes of completing a workout,” Heredia explains

It appears as though you two geniuses are having trouble understanding the difference between a supplement and a drug.