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Ward on fighting at 168 this is part of an interview from 2007.
I’m not having any trouble with it. I have to be conscious of what I am eating. I mean I always have been. The last week we have to watch carefully. Nothing too strenuous. I feel I won’t be here too long. I walk around 180. I can get to 185 if I stopped training but I rarely do.
Ward is a 175lb fighter now he is not small at the weight. I doubt he can make 168 now.
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Originally posted by joseph5620 View PostWhere are you getting that Ward is 6-1? For his fights I've only seen him listed as 6-0.
Also, what does this have to do with his amateur career? You're responding with something that has nothing to do with what I posted.
Point was that while Ward supposedly stepped aside in the olympics to give Dirrell a better shot, his actual size progression is relatively similar to Kovalev once you factor in the fighters' ages. Ward's amateur career ended at 20, while Kovalev didn't turn pro until 25.
If you compare their weight and height at the same age, they're very close. The only main difference between them is that Kovalev, like quite a lot of Russian fighters, put on more muscle mass in order to box (Ivan Drago style).
Scipio is always distorting facts to try to make Golovkin look bad, and you're buying it without thinking about it.
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Originally posted by joseph5620 View PostWhere are you getting that Ward is 6-1? For his fights I've only seen him listed as 6-0.
Also, what does this have to do with his amateur career? You're responding with something that has nothing to do with what I posted.
Froch is listed everywhere as 6'1.
And both have the same height:
[IMG]http://www.***************.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/ward-super-six-5.jpg[/IMG]
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Originally posted by Scipio2009 View PostWard was 173.5lbs with three weeks to go to the Paul Smith fight (~20 days to the fight, if I recall correctly). 30 days to his own fight, Golovkin was 168lbs.
20 days to the fight, I doubt that Golovkin was even at 165lbs.
talk about "getting realistic", lol
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Originally posted by j0zef View PostI'm not gonna argue with you over an inch - different sources give different heights.
Point was that while Ward supposedly stepped aside in the olympics to give Dirrell a better shot, his actual size progression is relatively similar to Kovalev once you factor in the fighters' ages. Ward's amateur career ended at 20, while Kovalev didn't turn pro until 25.
If you compare their weight and height at the same age, they're very close. The only main difference between them is that Kovalev, like quite a lot of Russian fighters, put on more muscle mass in order to box (Ivan Drago style).
Scipio is always distorting facts to try to make Golovkin look bad, and you're buying it without thinking about it.
I'm not buying into anything and I never even mentioned Kovalev or Golovkin. My point was that the majority of Ward's amateur career was not spent at 175 which is a fact. It's a fact that many people choose to either alter or completely lie about. It has nothing to do with "progression," Kovalev or Golovkin.
Your response seems to be based on paranoia.Last edited by joseph5620; 12-10-2015, 10:39 PM.
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Originally posted by Steve plunger View PostAbsolute rubbish lol.....show me one article where ward was 173 3 weeks before his fight with smith you silly man....ward has been forced to move up to light heavyweight because he simply cannot make SM any more and now u the expert is saying ward weighs just above his weight he boxed smith...let me educate is he weighed that three weeks then he could cut 5 pound easy to make SM .....as I said get realistic with that idiotic talk....u should get off the forum and go play with you toys lol
Not my fault you've deluded yourself into thinking that the actual image doesn't exist.
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Originally posted by j0zef View PostI'm not gonna argue with you over an inch - different sources give different heights.
Point was that while Ward supposedly stepped aside in the olympics to give Dirrell a better shot, his actual size progression is relatively similar to Kovalev once you factor in the fighters' ages. Ward's amateur career ended at 20, while Kovalev didn't turn pro until 25.
If you compare their weight and height at the same age, they're very close. The only main difference between them is that Kovalev, like quite a lot of Russian fighters, put on more muscle mass in order to box (Ivan Drago style).
Scipio is always distorting facts to try to make Golovkin look bad, and you're buying it without thinking about it.
thats what SHE said.......
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Originally posted by Scipio2009 View Post.... Andre Ward posted the image of himself, showing the scale read-out, on Instagrm.
Not my fault you've deluded yourself into thinking that the actual image doesn't exist.
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Originally posted by Steve plunger View PostAs I said show me the image and report that ward was 173 weeks before the smith fight.....it's easy done just show it lolA photo posted by Andre Ward (@andresogward) on
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