Wladimir Klitschko is not shot

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  • Dirk Diggler UK
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    #31
    Originally posted by paulf
    Damn dude, I never knew you were blind. Incredible that technology still allows you to use the internet and all. Big ups.
    You think Wlad looked good against Haye? I mean yes he clearly won the fight but looked good???

    He was his same puussified tentative cautious self against a cruiserweight

    Haye was dropping his hands, hanging his chin out to dry for Wlad and he largely refused to throw because he was scared of what could come back.

    Yet people expected him to pile forward winging power punches against Fury for some reason?

    I swear you people must've not watched this guy fight before.

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      #32
      Wlad was shot when he looked like **** in the Ibragimov fight too......... oh wait.

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        #33
        Originally posted by Freedom.
        Yet people say Rid**** Bowe was shot in his 20s when he fought Golota.

        People say age 27 Chris Eubank was shot for his first loss to Collins.

        Age 40 Wlad has been through too many training camps, where he pushes himself to the limit and has a lot of sparring. He's been a pro for 20 years and had a lot of amateur fights before that. Wlad took a lot of punishment in some of fights, especially the three brutal TKO losses.

        I've watched all of Wlad's fights multiple times, and I can tell you he's been looking OLD and FADED in his past two fight, especially against Fury.

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          #34
          Originally posted by Isaac Clarke
          Wlad was shot when he looked like **** in the Ibragimov fight too......... oh wait.
          I was just about to mention this fight.

          Wlad seems to look **** whenever he faces someone who moves a bit.

          But he looks great again when he faces stiff dummies like Pulev, Povetkin and Chagaev

          No pattern there at all.

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            #35
            Originally posted by denium
            Not at all. I'm just getting a bit fed up of people dismissing fighters as shot after they've taken a loss.

            It's not like i'm doing a Larry and creating three threads a day lol
            Lol. I totally agree with you though. If you weren't calling him shot prior to the fight, don't do it now. Fury had everything to do with how Wlad looked.

            Originally posted by paulf
            Damn dude, I never knew you were blind. Incredible that technology still allows you to use the internet and all. Big ups.
            Ermm...He didn't do much of anything vs Haye. He did look just as tentative as he did vs Fury. Haye just didn't do anything. Literally.

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              #36
              Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
              I was just about to mention this fight.

              Wlad seems to look **** whenever he faces someone who moves a bit.

              But he looks great again when he faces stiff dummies like Pulev, Povetkin and Chagaev

              No pattern there at all.
              Who did he fight with movement? Thompson and Jennings?

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                #37
                Originally posted by paulf
                This is embarrassing.

                Can you take Tyson Fury's **** out of your mouth for like, two seconds?

                Wladimir looked bad against Jennings and awful against Fury. As a fan, I don't believe in excuses. Fury was the better man and is now the champion. That's awesome! But leave it at that. Trying to further elevate Fury's win by trying to convince people that he beat a peak/prime version of Wladimir solely due to being a superior fighter and the fact that Klitschko is 40 means nothing is absolutely pathetic fangirl ****.

                You argument is like a 14 year old girl trying to 'prove' that Black Veil Brides are better than Motley Crue. Just stop. You're going to be embarrassed when you become an adult one day and look back on posts like this.
                Butthurt alert!!!

                Fury beats any version of Wladimir btw. He's just a better, more skilled fighter.

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                • LacedUp
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by New England


                  oh boy.

                  wladimir and i share the same birthday. he'll be 40 on march 25. [i'm not going to be 40 .]

                  he's had close to 70 pro fights. won a gold medal as an olympian. been knocked out thrice.


                  and he pawed his jab to set up clinches
                  he got old over night. you do not always get a steady decline in boxing. when guys slow a fraction of a second it opens the flood gates for guys who would normally just be that fraction of a second too slow.

                  i fell asleep during the jennings fight, but he started to look a bit lost while i was awake.



                  i've been saying that wladimir has started to rely more on the clinch, and less on the jab and stepping to the side, for a while now. he's never looked that bad, but the reliance on the clinch has been growing, and the jabs and right hands with power have been slipping.
                  He's always done that.

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                  • stuff jones
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by denium
                    Let me just make one thing clear, Wladimir Klitschko is not shot.

                    A year ago, Wladimir KO'd Pulev who at the time was considered the second best HW in the world. After it happened, people claimed that this was the best ever version of Wladimir, that he matures like a fine wine. Many people put him straight into their top three p4p fighters.

                    Then he fought Jennings, not as impressive a performance by any means, but he still won every round pretty easily.

                    Now onto his latest fight. Tyson Fury is a fighter who takes his opponents best weapons away from them. Against Chisora, he fought the entire fight southpaw, took away Chisora's best weapon (his big overhand right) and make him look very limited. NSB then decided that Chisora was shot, despite Chisora being on the best win streak of his career.

                    Against Wladimir, Fury again took away his best weapon (his jab) with constant feints and head movement. This again made Wlad look very limited and of course, NSB said he's shot.

                    There's a pattern appearing here. People need to recognise the skill of Tyson Fury. Put Wladimir in against a Povetkin or a Wilder and see what happens. No other HW understands the sport like Fury and the technicalities behind it. He understands angles, can control distance etc.

                    The only way of beating Tyson Fury is to knock him out, you won't win a decision against him.
                    Hard to take the analysis seriously of someone who thinks that a glancing blow from Wlad is evidence that Fury has a chin.

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                    • LacedUp
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                      #40
                      Didn't Freedom have Wladimir P4P #1 in September? Even after knowing the results of the Jennings fight?

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