Was Danny Jacobs vs Peter Quillin A Premature Stoppage? *Official Poll*

[Ray Corso]

He would have been devasted! Good stoppage the man didn't get his equalibrium back and he never acknowedged the ref he just watched his opponent in a daze!
He would have been hurt bad!
Ray

[VatoMulatto]

At first it looked like a bad stoppage but on further review you can tell it was a very good stoppage. Quillin was completely gone and had no idea where he was.

[BrometheusBob.]

Two things: Quillin did a poor job of holding on. He tried fighting back instead but was so fcked up he could hardly punch.

Second, technically the ref should have called a knocked down since the ropes held him up. After the count, Quillin might have recovered just enough to allow the fight to continue. I know its potentially dangerous but fighters have been as hurt as him before and finished the fight.

Look at Mosley-Forrest 1, I don't think Mosley even knew where he was

(start at 5:55)

In my opinion, Mosley was in better shape throughout this fight than Quillin was at the time of stoppage.

[New England]

Quillin's eyes were wide open, with an intense stare and looking directly in front of him at Jacobs. Peter was dazed but he had his hands up, in the stance and was looking directly forward. He should have been given the benefit of the doubt and been allowed to demonstrate that he was OK or able to defend himself. Harvey Doc panicked because of Jacobs' intensity, the quickness of what was playing out and Quillin staggering. Boxing pundits should be calling it what it is: a premature and bad stoppage. Harvey Doc is the new Richard Steele

intense stare .

dude he was rocking around the ring with no idea what was going on other than the fact that he was in a fight. that's not enough. watch him not react at all when doc stops the fight. he either didn't care, or didn't notice immediately that the fight was stopped. doc waves his hands right in front of him, and all quillin does is stare.


staring does not mean you are fit to fight. you need to do more, and quillin wasn't doing it.

that was a great stoppage. great, great stoppage. doc is a great ref. we need to air on the side of caution when a guy's ability to continue is in question. looking at this gif, which is the most realistic representation of what doc was seeing, you can't tell me that his ability to continue wasn't in question. in my mind there was no doubt.


the only argument i'm entertaining this point is that it was early. he hadn't been taking a long beating. i'm not suffering anybody telling me "he looked good to me" because he didn't. there wasn't just a weakness in his legs. there was a full body "i'm only standing because i'm a pro boxer and i'm virtually unconscious," wobble to him.


i don't want to see a guy in that condition being allowed to fight. that's not a the sport for me.

[New England]

In my opinion, Mosley was in better shape throughout this fight than Quillin was at the time of stoppage.

shane also knows how to hold on and survive, something that quillin didn't know how to do. he's showing the ref stuff he wants to see.

quillin wasn't doing much of that.



here's a strange thought:
even if quillin would have gotten through that patch and won the fight, i'm cool with the stoppage. boxers don't need to be any more hurt than quillin was for me to be OK with the stoppage.

[j0zef]

I don't mind if he stopped it after a standing 8 count.

[Leee]

I think he was going to do a standing 8 count and then remembered there was no standing 8 count so he just panicked and stopped the fight. That stoppage was in a gray area.

[BostonGuy]

intense stare .

dude he was rocking around the ring with no idea what was going on other than the fact that he was in a fight. that's not enough. watch him not react at all when doc stops the fight. he either didn't care, or didn't notice immediately that the fight was stopped. doc waves his hands right in front of him, and all quillin does is stare.


staring does not mean you are fit to fight. you need to do more, and quillin wasn't doing it.

that was a great stoppage. great, great stoppage. doc is a great ref. we need to air on the side of caution when a guy's ability to continue is in question. looking at this gif, which is the most realistic representation of what doc was seeing, you can't tell me that his ability to continue wasn't in question. in my mind there was no doubt.


the only argument i'm entertaining this point is that it was early. he hadn't been taking a long beating. i'm not suffering anybody telling me "he looked good to me" because he didn't. there wasn't just a weakness in his legs. there was a full body "i'm only standing because i'm a pro boxer and i'm virtually unconscious," wobble to him.


i don't want to see a guy in that condition being allowed to fight. that's not a the sport for me.

You make valid points but I think in a championship bout, you give the fighter the benefit of the doubt and let him demonstrate that he can fight on.

Harvey Dock did not give Peter Quillin the opportunity to do that. He should have let it go a few more seconds and if Peter wasn't responding or defending himself properly, then pull the plug at that point.

Dock just instinctively assumed - based on the sheer intensity and quickness of Jacobs' assault, Quillin getting nailed with a couple big shots and being staggered - that he was unfit to continue. The fight went from zero to 60 in a matter of seconds and Dock got emotionally caught up in it and panicked.

Also, watching replay a couple times, after Quillin staggered, he steadied himself, was bouncing on his feet and seemed to be readying himself for the next Jacobs' onslaught. He should have been afforded the benefit of the doubt to continue.

[AllEyesOpen]

I understand that guys can recover from being badly hurt, but in this case it just wouldn't have made a difference, not cause Quillin wouldn't have been able to recover if allowed to but because Jacobs would have continued to swarm him with solid accurate shots. Even after the first shot that rocked him Quillin wasn't able to defend himself, Jacobs just wouldn't have allowed him to get past the first round.

[SCEN3RY]

Neither here nor there really.

On the one hand, Quillin was clearly out of it at the time of the stoppage.

On the other, maybe he deserves a proper count....ref could have continued with a standing 8 count and made the appropriate decision thereafter the 8 second mark (think Khan-Garcia when Bayless looked Khan over during the 8 count). Quillin would have still been under Dock's protection and supervision...it's not an unrealistic thing to ask of a referee especially when he paused the action because he thought there was a knockdown, it was quite certainly the perfect time for it.