Won't Canelo have to make a decision this week?

[jai mari078]

Manny Pacquiao
Andre Ward
Klitschko

heck, I could even argue that Danny Garcia has a pretty solid list of opponents (despite the blemishes...)


Your turn. Name me a fight where Canelo didn't outweigh his opponent. Yeah, outweighing his opponent by 1 pound still counts.

So you gonna take the Floyd loss out since according to your logic it was at catchweight and Floyd drained Canelo when he could barely make 154 at the time, and don't tell me he outweighed Floyd because everybody kows the rehydrating is not the issue, it's the draining down the extra weight tha kills you and weakenss you.

I guess you won't acknowledge that but according to your logic that should matter right?

[UNBIASED BOXING]

Your gonna tell me Klitchskos last 4 of 6 and Danny's last 4 of 6 was better than Canelos. Are you serious with the long line of soft touches and tomatoe cans Danny's been fighting after Matthyse, now Robert Guererro who has lost it has o noteable win at 147 and was all but out on his feet against Aaron "Cab Driver " Martinez.

Andre Ward has a great resume but that was prior layoff in the Super 6. I'm talking in there last set of recent opponents.

I don't think anyone of there resumes are better than Floyd and Lara and Cotto is a very solid fight, and Trout is another guy nobody wants to fight.

Manny has a great over all resume but his recent string of opponents isnt better than Canelos with Brandon Rios and Chris Algeri in his last few fights.

You cant compare overall with Manny because Canelo is only 25 and his career is just starting, and Manny is all but done.

Klitchsko is great but has been fighting a bunch of mediocre heavyweights, Fury's not even in his league when Vlad wants to fight, he looked like he didn't even wanna be inn that fight.

Using the weight excuse is whack and thats all it is an excuse, you can weigh all you want if you don't have the skill to go with it. it doesn't matter.

It's not like his opponent doesn't have the same opportunity, as long as he makes the contracted wieght thats all that matters until there is a rehydration clause. The weight advantage is an excuse and you act like he's the only fighter rehydrates up. Many fighters do and have done this for years in boxing. You're obviously a Canelo hater but you cant argue with the guys he's fought.

I'm sure you will but haters will try and find any excuse to discredit a fighter they have an agenda aginst.

Here you go. Coming out with excuses and extra stipulations. You said, name a fighter with a better resume than Canelo with a better resume in their past 6 fights, and I did just that.

So you gonna take the Floyd loss out since according to your logic it was at catchweight and Floyd drained Canelo when he could barely make 154 at the time, and don't tell me he outweighed Floyd because everybody kows the rehydrating is not the issue, it's the draining down the extra weight tha kills you and weakenss you.

I guess you won't acknowledge that but according to your logic that should matter right?

Lol, what does that have to do with what I said? All I asked was for you to name a time that Canelo weighed less than his opponent. This should be easy, he has had 48 professional fights and started when he was a young teen. I know you probably can't find one recently, but you could at least start early on if possible.

I also love the fact that I'm talking resume andyou go straight to a weight excuse.

I was simply responding to the fact that you implied Canelo has been fighting bums, and I pointed out how ignorant a statement that was

Yeah, what's Lara's resume again? What top tier fighters has he beaten in his division? He had a very close fight against Vanes... and he beat some other B-level fighters. Let me know when he beats someone good in his division, although I suppose you can consider the Canelo fight arguable.

Trout? His best win is against Cotto. He has nothing else that's quite good.

[Scipio2009]

He got $1.5 mil for Willie Monroe.

https://twitter.com/danrafaelespn/st...31597554790400

Only because Willie Monroe, with his ESPN2 title in hand, only got $100k. HBO has committed, basically, the same amount of money to every Golovkin card since the buzz started going crazy - ~$2m. As mandatory challenger, with no other really marketable fight alternatives for Golovkin to ponder, Gary Shaw/Golden Boy isn't going to throw Johnson into the ring with Golovkin for all of $100k.

With the reality that Golovkin did **** business (doubt that the actual number was as low as 97k, but i really doubt that the actual number was as high as 150k; 110k-115k PPV buys makes the most sense to me), i doubt that HBO is going to be increasing their per fight committment to Golovkin beyond the general $2m that they've been committing to Golovkin.

Probably why there's this new push to move Roman Gonzalez onto his own shows; freeing up that extra $300k-$400k in the budget allows K2 to pay Golovkin a bit more money, while also affording to bring in decent profile opponents.

[Scipio2009]

,you're such a desperate whining ****. Do you know that? "Ahhhhh


Beercules making it up doe"



"DIDNT watch the Froch video."

Simply asking for a bit of consistency; as of 11/25/15, Carl Froch has openly stated that he can physically get down to 172lbs, for a fight with Golovkin.

What was the time frame that K2 and Golovkin were talking about heading to the UK for a fight at 168 against Carl Froch?

You can't say that it happened at any point in 2015, as Andre Ward finalizing his deal with Roc Nation immediately shut up any talk by K2 about fighting at 168.

Not my fault that you refuse to answer the other half of the argument.

[Dr Rumack]

Only because Willie Monroe, with his ESPN2 title in hand, only got $100k. HBO has committed, basically, the same amount of money to every Golovkin card since the buzz started going crazy - ~$2m. As mandatory challenger, with no other really marketable fight alternatives for Golovkin to ponder, Gary Shaw/Golden Boy isn't going to throw Johnson into the ring with Golovkin for all of $100k.

Your point was that Golovkin is earning peanuts without Canelo, when he earned $1.5m for Monroe and $900k for Rubio. You were wrong. There's no need for long-winded diversions.

[PeasantCrusha]

Canelo being fearless and a warrior, will fight GGG at 160lbs... I feel it.

[M Bison]

Canelo is a superstar to boxing he will get a pass.

[El Gitano]

[Scipio2009]

Your point was that Golovkin is earning peanuts without Canelo, when he earned $1.5m for Monroe and $900k for Rubio. You were wrong. There's no need for long-winded diversions.

Golovkin, if K2 does go forward with the continued doubleheader with Gonzalez. is not going to earn more than $1m for his next fight, about the same money he's been earning for a while now.

$1m is still a ton of money for any fighter (not an amount that most fighters could turn their noses up at), but for a fighter with the amount of hype and myth-making behind him as Golovkin does, still being just a $1m fighter is bordering on embarrassing at this point.

Danny Garcia, heading to Staples Center to fight Robert "The Ghost" Guerrero, on Fox in January in primetime, is likely to be paid $1.5m for that fight, after making $1.25m for the Malignaggi fight, $1.5m for the Peterson fight, $1.5m for the Matthysse fight, and over $1m for the Zab Judah fight (have been unable to find any real guesses at the number for the Herrera fight, but I'd imagine that that was for $1m as well).

Over the course of 7 fights, Danny Garcia would've earned more money than Golovkin has earned over his entire HBO run. Haymon inflation aside, how does that make sense for a fighter with as much believed starpower as Golovkin?

[Bardock]

Its funny you see all these new boxing "fans" all over twitter and facebook throwing b1tch fits about their lover Golovkin. These are the guys who don't watch boxing at all but they seen Golovkin knockout a bunch of tomato cans and are in love with him. Guys like Barcham and progressive(******)jedi who are MMA fans but some how feel they can relate to Golovkin