I told you all that Fury would win easy & make Wlad look ******.

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  • sunny31
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    #61
    Originally posted by Elroy1
    The only case you are resting is that you are a complete and total nutbag!!

    This is a perfectly respectable thread you are ruining, TAKE IT UP in History section or Fantasy Fights.

    90's? Fury would be one of the best opponents Lewis ever faced and there's no evidence Lewis even wins, remember he was nearly outboxed by bloody MErcer!

    Tyson Fury is HW champ in the heftiest and highest participation era with the highest degree of professionalism and development of training modes. That makes him 1st tier.

    As SOON as you mention HOF or ATG your argument is immediately worthless!

    Wladimir is in a class by himself, as SATG (Super All Time Great) where only Lewis and both Klits really belong at this time. The reason Klitschko may not have HOFers on his list is because he was so good he didn't allow any other boxers to shine bright enough.

    In an era with many HOFers, NOBODY was really that great at all because if they were they would not have allowed many other HOFers to arise! OBVIOUSLY!

    HOF/ATG is a nut bag argument. It has no place in reality.

    Truth is 95% of ALL ATG/HOFers would be immediately knocked out by even bummy modern boxers!

    The only HOFers of any value in a H2H with any modern boxers are RECENT HOFers like Mike Tyson, Evander Holyfield or Lennox Lewis!

    You've exposed yourslelf as a total fool, disrespectd Fury, Klitschko and undermined this forum by comparing them to ancient punch bag bums from 50 years in the past!

    Disgusting! Using this as an excuse to push your agenda!
    Ha ha you are funny. No you have to assess it like that because you have no knowledge of actual boxing, your only barometer is comparing records because you can't eyeball test like other fans can because you know diddly **** about boxing. He was in a poor era not because he was dominant and "didn't allow them to shine" but because there were not too many good and certainly no great heavyweights, if you had an ability to assess talent you would understand this. Warped mind...you need help pal in more ways than one.

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      #62
      Originally posted by Elroy1
      Yeah you are right.

      I massively underestimated the *****.

      You are far and away the candidate for that poofter LacedUp's "poster of the year" award

      Definitely the most steeled supporter with the insight/foresight to match.

      Heil Denium!

      Cheers buddy.

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        #63
        Originally posted by Elroy1
        Dude, I have been pretty good to Fury right through this entire saga, I defended him against the dudes referring to Cunningham KD's and self uppercuts and the like and I deterred anyone from calling him a bum.

        Remember? You were claiming I was only saying Fury was good to make it a better win for Wlad right??

        Sure I predicted a canvas KO victory from Wlad with a standard wearing down of the opponent and I was wrong.

        If you look through the main thread I was straight onto Denium there to congratulate him and begin digesting crow.

        You can see from my post history immediately.

        This is not time for your compulsive lying disorder to start showing.

        Everyone on that nut bags list, like Szef and Freedom have posted here and elsewhere since on the issue.

        The only one I haven't seen yet is Scott.

        He should get on here and man up for Denium and the other Fury strong holders, they deserve it.

        Let's not get carried away there Pinnochio, YOU also predicted a Wlad victory did you not?
        You began being good to Fury, then you started saying he had 1% chance and it would be the biggest upset in history if he did it. That he couldn't do anything Wlad could do and laughed at everyone that said he could do something.

        Yeah a couple of people like Scott did a post congratulating Fury on being the better fighter. Good job. Others mentioned Klitschko's age which is pathetic.

        I did predict a Wlad win on points. But I always maintained Fury could win if he did what he did. I always said I thought he was going to box and move and it would be his best option and he could win if he did it.

        Just 2 days ago I did a breakdown post of Fury's aadvantages and how he could win over Wlad if he stuck to a gameplan.

        It was never a surprise to me if he won.

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          #64
          Good call op. I made money on Fury winning because I liked the odds, but I probably would have bet on Wladmir if the odds were even.

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            #65
            Good work OP! Gotta give you credit for that. I felt Fury had a shot early on but as the fight dragged on, Wlad would get better.

            But hey, it's important to know, was yours a boxing prediction or a fan prediction lol

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              #66
              Originally posted by soul_survivor
              Good work OP! Gotta give you credit for that. I felt Fury had a shot early on but as the fight dragged on, Wlad would get better.

              But hey, it's important to know, was yours a boxing prediction or a fan prediction lol
              Boxing all day. The master thread is ridiculously large now, but i've literally spent hours and hours arguing with people in there that Fury is the best HW in the world.

              The ONLY advantages Wladimir had over Fury was his power & big fight experience, i said it time and time again.

              People mocked me when i claimed that Fury is the better athlete and the fitter man, they mocked me when i claimed that Fury has the best footwork in the division, and would completely outbox Wlad on the outside.

              Who's laughing now.

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                #67
                Originally posted by denium
                Boxing all day. The master thread is ridiculously large now, but i've literally spent hours and hours arguing with people in there that Fury is the best HW in the world.

                The ONLY advantages Wladimir had over Fury was his power & big fight experience, i said it time and time again.

                People mocked me when i claimed that Fury is the better athlete and the fitter man, they mocked me when i claimed that Fury has the best footwork in the division, and would completely outbox Wlad on the outside.

                Who's laughing now.
                I don't think I mocked you as I said Fury winning would not be out side the realms of reality. But I just thought Wlad would have that much more. He didn't.

                But we shouldn't get carried away, Fury threw nothing but arm punches last night and won because the other guy threw no punches, arms or otherwise. His footwork is still clumsy at times but he is quick and his taunts destroyed Wlad mentally, rather than physically. Fury's in ring intelligence will take him a long way.

                But there's still the possibility of a rematch and then fights with Haye, Jennings and Wilder. That will decide Fury's legacy.

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by Elroy1
                  I think it is very plausible to suppose Wladimir is slowing down with age. But it could also be that he did not take Fury seriously and didn't believe he had to train for the particular game that Fury brought.

                  In essence, it could be that Wladimir suffered from the Lewis syndrome, whereby he showed up very lazy to the fight which cost Lewis 2 fights and multiple other struggles as well.

                  If Wladimir still has what it takes to take out a young lion like Fury, then I think he will be sufficiently inspired now to make the adjustments and get the job done.

                  All I am saying is that it's certainly plausible by the closeness of the fight that a slightly sharper Wlad would have got to Fury.

                  A rematch is highly desirable. If Wlad loses, he signs out with Fury his clear successor, if he wins, Fury was still the one to end his streak of dominance spanning over a decade and marks the first time ever that Wladimir Klitschko was ever really outboxed!
                  Fury is better than Wlad.

                  It's really that simple. It was no fluke. It was dominant from start to finish.

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                    #69
                    Originally posted by denium
                    Boxing all day. The master thread is ridiculously large now, but i've literally spent hours and hours arguing with people in there that Fury is the best HW in the world.

                    The ONLY advantages Wladimir had over Fury was his power & big fight experience, i said it time and time again.

                    People mocked me when i claimed that Fury is the better athlete and the fitter man, they mocked me when i claimed that Fury has the best footwork in the division, and would completely outbox Wlad on the outside.

                    Who's laughing now.
                    Once again proves that six packs don't win fights.

                    Fury was the fitter man in there, Wlad was blowing after 4-5 rounds.

                    Fury looked like he could go 5 more rounds. Especially at that pace. And he was so much bigger. Wlad was wearing those high heels at the weigh in etc. Quite embarrassing when you see them in the ring and Fury was just a behemouth compared to wlad.

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                      #70
                      Originally posted by LacedUp
                      Once again proves that six packs don't win fights.

                      Fury was the fitter man in there, Wlad was blowing after 4-5 rounds.

                      Fury looked like he could go 5 more rounds. Especially at that pace. And he was so much bigger. Wlad was wearing those high heels at the weigh in etc. Quite embarrassing when you see them in the ring and Fury was just a behemouth compared to wlad.
                      Fury hasn't looked tired in a fight since Chisora I, and he's been really out of shape in some fights, he's just a freak. Coming in this light against Wlad, i knew he'd be capable of boxing 20 rounds, let alone 12. Obviously he didn't unload as many punches as he usually does due to being wary of Wlad's power.

                      What a night though! I really enjoyed reading your posts during the buildup.

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