Comments Thread For: Lara: I've Studied Golovkin, I Know His Flaws

[about.thousands]

that's hymen's fault he plays too many games and wont put his good/popular fighters on HBO so HBO told him to *** off because they don't want to overpay hymen's fighters for tune up/mismatch type of fights.

It's Haymon's fault HBO banned him because they won't pay market value for his fights? Was he trying to fleece HBO? I would say no because when he got his own company he's paying his fighters the same he demanded from HBO. We had to pay for Lemieux/GGG when that should've been a regular HBO fight. And Loeffler said the only way to pay he fighters to make it happen was PPV. Then they came out with those purses and they were similar to what the Bradley/Rios fight purses were. Somebody took us for fools and they got surprised by those low PPV numbers. Boxing fans aint fools.

[BlakBread904]

The demand for GGG-Canelo would be in the same bracket as Cotto-Canelo. I see no reason they couldn't be splitting a purse of $12-15 million.

To a guy making weight easily, not being willing to make 158 (2lbs) is just a strange decision IMO. 33 years old and hanging around is not a great idea.

Daniel Geale lost to Darren Barker man, he's way below average. So are guys Luke Munroe and Rubio. Lara is willing to fight GGG at 160 and they are saying it doesn't make business sense.

1) Lets estimate again...Floyd money for GGG would probably be $10m, and that's 25% of a combined $40m purse (which I think is conservative purse #). 45% of 15m is 6.75m. Again, Canelo $$ is not close to Floyd $$.

2) Hagler "hung around" and he's in the HOF. Still haven't seen any good reason for GGG to move up. He'll get more money and critical acclaim for beating Canelo at 160lb. Because if he beats Canelo at 155lb, naysayers will certainly try to discredit him "he beat up a smaller man @ 155 doe"

3) Geale gave a good accounting of himself in that fight, he dropped Barker in the 6th IIRC and lost in a close split decision. Geale also has wins vs Sturm and Sylvester in GERMANY. Barker wasn't a tomato can either. Persistent hip injuries derailed his career. it's sickening to see fans disrespect fighters who may not be elite, as if, if you not elite then you a bum.

4) Lara would be the most talented fighter on GGG's resume if that were to happen, but guess what...there is no public demand for it (or any fight involving Lara, really). Personally, I am a fan of Lara (and Cuban Boxing School in general) and would love to see that fight because I give Lara more credit than most on NSB.

4b) I wouldn't mind seeing Canelo/Lara @ 160lb. I think at 160lb, Lara wouldn't run around so fkn much. Probably be more confident sitting down on his shots.

[GMAN SUPREME]

If he takes Johnson you can ANY PPV buys away.

if golovkin fights johnson its not going to be on ppv wtf are you talking about?

[deanrw]

if golovkin fights johnson its not going to be on ppv wtf are you talking about?

He will fight Johnson because it is mandatory. I don't know why that guy thinks it will be PPV though LOL

[El-blanco]

Why didn't Golovkin fight Andre Ward for the glory? Instead of making the excuse that he didn't make financial sense?

Are you looking for an excuse out of me? Because you won't get one. He should have fought Ward.

[HeroBando]

Trout is far better than anyone GGG has faced.

Canelo is far better than anyone GGG has faced.

Lara would beat anyone GGG has faced.

He's calling for the fight, would be his best opponent and GGG can't get fights with anyone better. So, why not? Unless a Munroe rematch makes more business sense, of course.

Did you read the article? He's not calling for the fight:

"I want to clean things out at 154-pounds and if I'm not able to do that, then I will move up to 160 and throw a challenge to whoever."

It's the familiar pattern: Lara has a fight coming up, wants GGG next. After the fight he's got other options he wants to exhaust first

[brettWall]

Lara and Charlo are now fighting almost retired opponents. It's mind-boggling why they're not fighting each other. There's also Quillin and Jacobs waiting for him, fights of which are easier to make than an HBO fighter.

[OnePunch]

So why not go hard on HBO the same way people go hard on Haymon for something that's not even his fault? HBO is the reason the fight isn't happening. HBO is the reason we'll never see a couple of fights between their fighters and Haymon fighters. HBO is the reason we as boxing fans aren't getting the fights we deserve. I'm already paying $10 a month for HBO and $50-$70 a PPV. Being a boxing fan is expensive.

because honestly its a fight nobody (except 7 members of the GGG hate squad) care the least bit about. Sure, if they end up making it, fine, I'll watch it. But to expect HBO, or K2, or any relevant media to give a **** about GGG-Lara is a fools errand.......

[Vasyl’s dad]

I don't understand the reluctance on the part of GGG's team to make this fight. I also cant understand how his fans can attempt to defend his team's reluctance to make the fight - past or present - if according to them he would simply cut off the ring and destroy Lara - ala a better Angulo???

Name one current middleweight Lara has beat to show hes even worthy of a fight.

Just 1.

[BlakBread904]

Where has it been said that they will offer 158lbs catchweight?
I think he'd jump at that, give 70-30 Canelo favour you have to remember even with 30 percent that's huge amount of money.

Most I've heard recently is Canelo not wanting to budge a single pound but this is all hearsay we don't have this confirmed from Canelo own words but his trainers etc but obviously his trainers and not even his manager at time effect his choices If it did he'd likely have ducked Lara.

Canelo/GGG as we know it now, would be champion vs interim, and as such, the purse split is 55/45 in favor of Canelo.

why the fk would GGG give up weight on the scale AND money?

Canelo could conceivably get stripped of WBC title (GGG elevated to full title holder)...and when he finally accepts 160lb as his weight class, come into the bout as a challenger.

Under WBC rules, that's 75/25 in champ's favor. but of course, they will negotiate and GGG could get lion share, at least 50/50. in that scenario Canelo loses his belt and $$ if the WBC vacates him. but WBC is a Mexican organization, they won't strip their countryman Canelo.