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  • Originally posted by about.thousands View Post
    Showtime paid those rates. Showtime is in the same market as HBO
    Not before Haymon got kicked out by HBO. Even now most of these expensive mismatches are on bought airtime, not Sho

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    • Originally posted by gmc_rfc_06 View Post
      1. I never compared Canelo to Mayweather in terms of money. Mayweather is irrelevant to this discussion. A guy earning just over $1 million per fight against poor opposition has plenty of reasons to want a fight against a top fighter who is a massive name and who would provide him a payday that at least triples his previous high.

      2. Hagler has a good resume, its not a comparible situation. When there are potential big fights at a catchweight of potentially 2lbs less, it's not difficult.

      3. I've watched Darren Barker's career play out. He was a decent boxer, but he only won a world title because someone as weak as Geale had the belt (taken from a faded Sturm). Geale is an average fighter, the likes of Cotto showed the gap between average and high level.

      4. There was no demand for Munroe or Rubio, but they happened. Lara is better than both and would be a more intriguing fight than both.
      1) your original post mentioned GGG willing to fight Floyd at 154 as a comparison to GGG fighting(or not) Canelo at 155. Nevertheless, GGG stands to make more money by being patient and waiting on Canelo... whether the WBC strips him or Canelo decides to pay GGG step-aside money for the time being.

      2) it is comparable because people were critical of Hagler for staying put at middleweight.

      3) Geale/Barker are not average fighters. Well, maybe average at the top level of prizefighting. But they are both skilled, standout boxers and your attempts to discredit them, casts doubts as to whether YKSAB.

      4) ...Monroe and Rubio are not demanding the same $ as Lara is. If Lara was fighting for Monroe/Rubio money, they would have already fought.

      Still not seeing any logical reasons for GGG to accept a catchweight vs Canelo.

      WBC is a Mexican organization, Canelo won't drop it nor will they strip him. He'll pay some step aside $$ to GGG until his team feels like they are ready or they see weakness in GGG.

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      • Originally posted by El-blanco View Post
        Are you looking for an excuse out of me? Because you won't get one. He should have fought Ward.
        Fair enough, at least you admit it unlike some of these other GGG fans. Making excuses for him not fighting Ward is all they do.

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        • Everyone with a boxing mind knows Lara doesn't hear the last bell. At least Lara is willing to move up to middleweight. Canelo seems to think 155 is a division.

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          • Since Lara is willing to fight in Golovkin's country, Team GG can always take it there in case HBO won't have the stomach to cover a running fighter in their network. Let's face it, Team GG will run out of options and Lara would be a relief. Beggars can't be choosers, so this would be a relatively easy fight to make on the part of the GG team.

            We haven't heard a word from the GG camp about Lara, so they must have been considering it. Let's see what happens.

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            • Originally posted by dr.french View Post
              Lara is not in the same weight division. Why would they fight right now?
              Neither was Rosado !

              Why wouldn't they fight now ?

              Only a special group of select people try to **** on that fight.

              Are you one of them ?

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              • Originally posted by BlakBread904 View Post
                1) your original post mentioned GGG willing to fight Floyd at 154 as a comparison to GGG fighting(or not) Canelo at 155. Nevertheless, GGG stands to make more money by being patient and waiting on Canelo... whether the WBC strips him or Canelo decides to pay GGG step-aside money for the time being.

                2) it is comparable because people were critical of Hagler for staying put at middleweight.

                3) Geale/Barker are not average fighters. Well, maybe average at the top level of prizefighting. But they are both skilled, standout boxers and your attempts to discredit them, casts doubts as to whether YKSAB.

                4) ...Monroe and Rubio are not demanding the same $ as Lara is. If Lara was fighting for Monroe/Rubio money, they would have already fought.

                Still not seeing any logical reasons for GGG to accept a catchweight vs Canelo.

                WBC is a Mexican organization, Canelo won't drop it nor will they strip him. He'll pay some step aside $$ to GGG until his team feels like they are ready or they see weakness in GGG.
                I never mentioned Mayweather. You mentioned him and I responded.

                On that topic though, guys who fight Mayweather get tiny amounts of the purse. Even Canelo only got $5 million to fight Mayweather, Golovkin could get as much to fight Canelo as he would get against Mayweather.

                Seeing as we're talking about fighting for world titles, Geale and Barker are both very much average. The difference between the levels is very apparent, look what happened when Geale fought genuine world class in Golovkin and Cotto.

                The reason is pretty simple: he may not get the fight otherwise. Canelo is showing no intention of going to 160, he'll keep making the 154-155 fights and Golovkin will be stuck with more poor opposition. Beating those guys is something he can keep doing no problem, but a Canelo fight outweighs 5 of those.

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                • Originally posted by GMAN SUPREME View Post
                  if golovkin fights johnson its not going to be on ppv wtf are you talking about?
                  WTF EXACTLY... GGG can lose 5 lbs or stay being a CAB Drivers WORST nightmare...

                  I don't know of ANY PPV guys going back down from there until now.

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                  • Originally posted by deanrw View Post
                    He will fight Johnson because it is mandatory. I don't know why that guy thinks it will be PPV though LOL
                    Dummy #2. You fight on PPV and then go down???


                    That doesn't sound like an "A" sider much to me???

                    God DAMN GGG has the DUMBEST FK'N ******ED fans on the PLANET!!!!

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                    • Originally posted by JQside View Post
                      Since Lara is willing to fight in Golovkin's country, Team GG can always take it there in case HBO won't have the stomach to cover a running fighter in their network. Let's face it, Team GG will run out of options and Lara would be a relief. Beggars can't be choosers, so this would be a relatively easy fight to make on the part of the GG team.

                      We haven't heard a word from the GG camp about Lara, so they must have been considering it. Let's see what happens.
                      I want this fight to happen so all these ******s can stfu.once ggg destroys lara inside six rounds they will stop with this lara nonsense.lara couldn't school angulo who is as slow and crude as they come dude nearly got knocked out and was under heavy pressure the entire fight.lara is to frail to go the distance with ggg.

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