Comments Thread For: Lara: I've Studied Golovkin, I Know His Flaws

[El-blanco]

Based on how healthy and big he looked at the weigh in for Cotto (155), making 154 won't be an issue when needed. As he hadn't fought for a belt since Mayweather, it hasn't been needed.

Canelo hasn't fought at MW (no, catchweights are not the same seeing as neither guy can weigh more than 155) and has expressed no desire in doing so. If he was willing to meet Golovkin in the middle then I really disagree with refusing to come down 2lbs when you have previously stated you'd fight at 154 for a big fight.

Big, meaningful fights trump irrelevant opponents at MW.

lol come on man. Then he shouldn't hold a title in that division. End of story. What's he's trying to do is ridiculous. You can't hold a title in a division that tops out at 160 and then refuse to fight guys within that limit. It's disgraceful.

[bigdunny1]

Have they said "We are not fighting on HBO"?

It's easy to use that cop-out to excuse why Team Golovkin don't want the fight.

He doesn't have to say it. Haymon don't speak so we can only go by his actions which superced anything his fighters say. And his actions are crystal clear none of his guys are allowed on HBO. until I see some haymon fighters allowed on HBO there is no point to take this fairy tale fight serious. I keep asking this and nobody answers everyone knows the riff between haymon and HBO so why ain't Lara calling out haymon top fighters at 154 and 160 that are realistic fights and in theory should be easy to make? Instead calling out fighters on networks haymon doesn't allow his fighters to appear on. That doesn't seem funny to anybody else????

[BlakBread904]

As someone who likes Golovkin, I just don't understand why some act like that fight has to be at 160 or no fight.

GGG is on record as saying he can do 154-168 for a big PPV fight. Is Canelo not a big PPV fight and by far the biggest fight available? Yet team GGG said last week they wouldn't even do it at 158, why?

Canelo has never said he was going to fight at 160, even before Golovkin became truly relevant.

1) Canelo money is NOT THE SAME as Floyd money. AT ALL. I shouldn't even have to point this out. The exposure, critical reviews...nothing, would be the same. Also, GGG and his team said he would go down to 154 for a FLOYD FIGHT. not a "big PPV fight."

2) Canelo's move to 160lb is not a matter of if, but WHEN.

2b) The road to middleweight glory goes through GGG. He can afford to wait Canelo out, until the redhead finally decides to weigh 160lb the day before a fight.

2c) GGG's style and lack of punishment absorbed means that he could conceivably still be at prime (or near prime) level for a few more years. Canelo would have "grown into 160lb" by that time. He can't continue to cut weight like he does now

3) for a natural middleweight such as GGG, the weight drain of 5lb might might weaken him too much (team canelo's intent) while not providing a worthwhile payoff (see #1)

With all of that being said, there is no logical reason for GGG to agree to any sort of cw with Canelo. Not 156, 157, 158, 159. none of that. Canelo's gonna move up soon. Just wait him out.

[gmc_rfc_06]

lol come on man. Then he shouldn't hold a title in that division. End of story. What's he's trying to do is ridiculous. You can't hold a title in a division that tops out at 160 and then refuse to fight guys within that limit. It's disgraceful.

I don't believe he should have the belt.

To me he should have beat Miguel and left the belt in the ring. There is no reason to have it.

[Shadoww702]

GGG is mandatory challanger for Canelo for 160 lb title, why should he go down to 155 ? Ward does not have a fan base, plus how many fights in the last few years ? Lara is a good fighter who on any given night can give any fighter a tough fight (he runs) Monroe jr. is WAY better than both of them. GGG has fought REAL HOFamers unlike anyone else. He's a FOR sure HOFamer who not only challenged the best but beat them. He's the Muhammad Ali of our time. 10x weight division Champion. Who has EVER done that??? Not even Pac

Ok. Your right...No convincing you otherwise.

[Bardock]

lol come on man. Then he shouldn't hold a title in that division. End of story. What's he's trying to do is ridiculous. You can't hold a title in a division that tops out at 160 and then refuse to fight guys within that limit. It's disgraceful.

He could drop the title today and you guys would still be crying about ducking lol am I wrong?

[Shadoww702]

what the hell did you just say?

Go watch the two fights with him and Andre Dirrell.

[gmc_rfc_06]

1) Canelo money is NOT THE SAME as Floyd money. AT ALL. I shouldn't even have to point this out. The exposure, critical reviews...nothing, would be the same. Also, GGG and his team said he would go down to 154 for a FLOYD FIGHT. not a "big PPV fight."

2) Canelo's move to 160lb is not a matter of if, but WHEN.

2b) The road to middleweight glory goes through GGG. He can afford to wait Canelo out, until the redhead finally decides to weigh 160lb the day before a fight.

2c) GGG's style and lack of punishment absorbed means that he could conceivably still be at prime (or near prime) level for a few more years. Canelo would have "grown into 160lb" by that time. He can't continue to cut weight like he does now

3) for a natural middleweight such as GGG, the weight drain of 5lb might might weaken him too much (team canelo's intent) while not providing a worthwhile payoff (see #1)

With all of that being said, there is no logical reason for GGG to agree to any sort of cw with Canelo. Not 156, 157, 158, 159. none of that. Canelo's gonna move up soon. Just wait him out.

GGG is making just over $1 million per fight, Cotto and Canelo just shared $20 million.

While it's not Mayweather money, it's still massive money and a massive fight. Far above anything GGG has made.

Canelo, at his oldest fighting age to date, just made 155 with absolute ease. He wasn't remotely drained or dry. He's not having a hard time making weight.

Waiting around fighting poor opposition doesn't do anything for GGG that could equate to a Canelo fight. 2lbs is nothing for a guy who makes 160 easily.

[El-blanco]

1) Canelo money is NOT THE SAME as Floyd money. AT ALL. I shouldn't even have to point this out. The exposure, critical reviews...nothing, would be the same. Also, GGG and his team said he would go down to 154 for a FLOYD FIGHT. not a "big PPV fight."

2) Canelo's move to 160lb is not a matter of if, but WHEN.

2b) The road to middleweight glory goes through GGG. He can afford to wait Canelo out, until the redhead finally decides to weigh 160lb the day before a fight.

2c) GGG's style and lack of punishment absorbed means that he could conceivably still be at prime (or near prime) level for a few more years. Canelo would have "grown into 160lb" by that time. He can't continue to cut weight like he does now

3) for a natural middleweight such as GGG, the weight drain of 5lb might might weaken him too much (team canelo's intent) while not providing a worthwhile payoff (see #1)

With all of that being said, there is no logical reason for GGG to agree to any sort of cw with Canelo. Not 156, 157, 158, 159. none of that. Canelo's gonna move up soon. Just wait him out.

Great post. They don't even have to wait that long. If ggg enforces his mandatory then Canelo has to fight at the full limit. There's no reason to do anything else or submit to canelo's ridiculous demands.

I don't believe he should have the belt.

To me he should have beat Miguel and left the belt in the ring. There is no reason to have it.

That would be the right thing to do.

[lopez12]

I don't understand the reluctance on the part of GGG's team to make this fight. I also cant understand how his fans can attempt to defend his team's reluctance to make the fight - past or present - if according to them he would simply cut off the ring and destroy Lara - ala a better Angulo???