At 25 years old, is Canelo Alvarez already a borderline future Hall of Famer?

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  • Mr.Fantastic
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    #131
    Originally posted by Bardock
    Yeah, its really pathetic. You think they would have more honor. Last guy they have left is Rocky Martinez. I guess Pedraza who got that gift decision VS Cherry but you don't hear them talking about that
    Watch out for the Verdejo **** storm after he wins a decent fight. I like Verdejo but he's going to be put on a pedestal real quick.

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    • Bardock
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      #132
      Originally posted by Mr.Fantastic
      Watch out for the Verdejo **** storm after he wins a decent fight. I like Verdejo but he's going to be put on a pedestal real quick.
      I can't stand when they talk about him beating up bums. lol Did you see what Saul Rodriguez did to Najera? He would destroy Verdejo if they fought tomorrow but Verdejo don't want none.

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      • PR ESQ.
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        #133
        Originally posted by Bardock
        I can't stand when they talk about him beating up bums. lol Did you see what Saul Rodriguez did to Najera? He would destroy Verdejo if they fought tomorrow but Verdejo don't want none.
        Complex confirmed...too simple...

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        • Bardock
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          #134
          Originally posted by PR ESQ.
          Complex confirmed...too simple...
          Verdejo would take knees all night and cry to his daddy in the corner if they ever fought. Facts.

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          • -PBP-
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            #135
            Nah. Threads like this do nothing but create hate for the kid. Are these guys hall of famers? Just a random list of dudes no one talks about.

            Paul Williams
            Zab Judah
            Antonio Margarito
            Cory Spinks
            Vernon Forrest
            Winky Wright
            Fernando Vargas
            Ike Quartey
            Jermaine Taylor
            Kelly Pavlik
            Meldrick Taylor


            All those guys listed have resumes in the same ballpark (higher or lower) and should be in if Canelo as of today gets in.

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              #136
              Originally posted by Bardock
              I can't stand when they talk about him beating up bums. lol Did you see what Saul Rodriguez did to Najera? He would destroy Verdejo if they fought tomorrow but Verdejo don't want none.
              No I haven't. I'll have to check it out.

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              • Bardock
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                #137
                Originally posted by Mr.Fantastic
                No I haven't. I'll have to check it out.


                Verdejo's toughest test

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                • -Kev-
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                  #138
                  Originally posted by IronDanHamza
                  Possible.

                  But I think he'll end up more like Fernando Vargas.


                  Especially if the Golovkin fight does happen.
                  I think the only way they're comparable is that they are Mexican. The difference between Canelo and Vargas styles are like the Sahara Desert and Antarctica. I see Canelo's future losses all being decisions where he was outboxed. I doubt he'll ever actually get ruined or knocked out unless he really bites off more than he could chew, like fighting Kovalev at 175. Golovkin is not an overly difficult task for the future, right now it is. But if K2 and GBP come to an agreement to let Canelo fight one MW first, and we can see how Canelo looks against that MW, then we can gauge better and make better predictions. Right now, Cotto is a very good JMW win, not a MW win.

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                  • IronDanHamza
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                    #139
                    Originally posted by -Kev-
                    I think the only way they're comparable is that they are Mexican. The difference between Canelo and Vargas styles are like the Sahara Desert and Antarctica. I see Canelo's future losses all being decisions where he was outboxed. I doubt he'll ever actually get ruined or knocked out unless he really bites off more than he could chew, like fighting Kovalev at 175. Golovkin is not an overly difficult task for the future, right now it is. But if K2 and GBP come to an agreement to let Canelo fight one MW first, and we can see how Canelo looks against that MW, then we can gauge better and make better predictions. Right now, Cotto is a very good JMW win, not a MW win.
                    I didn't say they're comoarable in style.

                    I said his career may end up going the Fernando Varags route I.e Very talented young prospect with a solid resume for a young fighter and seemingly good potential however burns out fast and doesn't reach his expected potential.

                    I'd also expect a Golovkin fight to possibly do a lot of damage to Canelo's career ala Tito-Vargas.

                    Nothing to do with their styles.

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                    • PR ESQ.
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                      #140
                      Originally posted by Bardock
                      Verdejo would take knees all night and cry to his daddy in the corner if they ever fought. Facts.
                      Confirmed. Simple.

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