Rigo or GGG

[Ray*]

In his division nobody does that is 1000% fact for years, and nobody will ever come to him or meet him halfway even he ain't worth the risk for so little reward lets be real.

And about the 4lbs that goes both ways right? Actually would sound more like "Its just 2lbs I think Lomachenko is great enough to handled that. Don't you?. Rigo doesn't want to get Gamboad plain and simple, and this ain't something that he came up with for Lomachenko because he is special he has been saying this 124 lbs catch weight to fight a big name at featherweight before Lomachenko was even a thing he just won't budge on it. Can't say as much about GGG since i don't know as much.

Rigo can't have it both ways, he still isn't a big name so he can't be picky. He can't to be ducked then get offered fights he is aside stepping them.

[gmc_rfc_06]

Rigo can't have it both ways, he still isn't a big name so he can't be picky. He can't to be ducked then get offered fights he is aside stepping them.

Being ducked by your division and being offered fights in different divisions is entirely different.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

So fighters who never move up aren't great period?? This era is different so I see why yo would say that, a lot of people do because a lot of fighter nowadays drain themselves to death a la Rios to make weight just to have advantages, but that however don't apply to Rigo and maybe a few others, he's never had 1 fight at 122 where he's been the bigger guy, and re-hydrates to a whoping 126 -_- he is not one of those guys you are thinking of who go up and then is when they are on an actual even playing field, and they can prove how great they really are.

Yes Rigo is happy to play it safe or at least not play it ******,while also leaving some room for a fight to be made. He ain't facing no Santa Cruz here and he knows it, just like you don't think 4 pounds is unreasonable 2 pounds sound even less unreasonable. Especially when it's such a juicy fight and Lomachenko would still have plenty of advantages from a realistic stand point.

I think Rigondeaux is a great fighter but obviously not as great as I thought.

Many great fighters have not been on an even playing field when it comes to weight and still been able to perform.

[Ray*]

Being ducked by your division and being offered fights in different divisions is entirely different.

Agreed, just don't go around talking about how you can't get fights.

[gmc_rfc_06]

Agreed, just don't go around talking about how you can't get fights.

It's valid though.

Santa Cruz, Frampton, Quigg...those are the fights that should be made and are being avoided. Rigondeaux wants all the belts back.

Guys avoid him and yet it's Rigondeaux who gets the blame.

[DannYankee]

I think Rigondeaux is a great fighter but obviously not as great as I thought.

Many great fighters have not been on an even playing field when it comes to weight and still been able to perform.

That's 100% valid to feel that way not everyone is a phenom physically like Pacquiao. Rigondeaux is simply too disciplined to take a foolish risk, he has been at that weight his whole life, and never said anything to us other than he was going to dominate his division, and that he want's to beat the **** of every other champion in it. We the fans are the ones who want the fight with Lomachenko, and he didn't say flat out say no, but he has had his mind set to that 124 number for a very long time.

Lomachenko wasn't even in the picture back then.I can recall he said that when asked about Mares after he moved up from 122 before he got knocked the fk out by Gonzales. So that's his condition, and what he thinks is fair. I doubt he's gonna change his mind unless he wants to cash out.

[Ray*]

It's valid though.

Santa Cruz, Frampton, Quigg...those are the fights that should be made and are being avoided. Rigondeaux wants all the belts back.

Guys avoid him and yet it's Rigondeaux who gets the blame.

Not blaming him for being avoided, he is like GGG in a way. If people are NOT going to fight you in your division then take legacy fights that comes your way. Lomachenko would be a great fight for him. Do you really think Cruz, Quigg or Frampton would fight Rigo? Am a fan of Loma and i like Rigo as well and its a 50-50 fight no matter what division the fight happens in.

[gmc_rfc_06]

Not blaming him for being avoided, he is like GGG in a way. If people are NOT going to fight you in your division then take legacy fights that comes your way. Lomachenko would be a great fight for him. Do you really think Cruz, Quigg or Frampton would fight Rigo? Am a fan of Loma and i like Rigo as well and its a 50-50 fight no matter what division the fight happens in.

I do agree, but I don't agree that he should be the one to make the entire sacrifice. It's a legacy fight for both so why should Loma get to stay at his preferred weight instead of them meeting in the middle?

My hope would be Rigo gets himself into mandatory positions and forces them to either fight him or vacate the belts.

[Ray*]

I do agree, but I don't agree that he should be the one to make the entire sacrifice. It's a legacy fight for both so why should Loma get to stay at his preferred weight instead of them meeting in the middle?

My hope would be Rigo gets himself into mandatory positions and forces them to either fight him or vacate the belts.

Not in favour of ONE fighter getting all their ways unless your name is way bigger than your opponent, but from what i read Rigo wanted the fight at 124 and that was accepted by Team Loma... but now he says he is too small for that weight, maybe am wrong.

[DannYankee]

Not in favour of ONE fighter getting all their ways unless your name is way bigger than your opponent, but from what i read Rigo wanted the fight at 124 and that was accepted by Team Loma... but now he says he is too small for that weight, maybe am wrong.

No what Lomachenko accepted verbally was the 135 rehydration clause and sent an offer saying that, and offering 500k. But he never ever agreed to the 124 catchweight which is what Rigo wanted the most pretty much before Loma was a pro, besides money that's his #1 thing to fight a big name at featherweight .