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  • #81
    Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
    Not really. Walters v loma was the fight in play. There was never discussion about loma v rigo until
    LOma called him out rather than go to 130 for Walters. Calling out a smaller man instead of fighting as the smaller man is not something you get credit for.

    Walters missing weight shouldn't have made the fight not doable.

    As for loma calling out rigo, yes its a good fight. But let's not act like it was anything other than aa defeletive maneuver to try and save face from loma not wanting to fight Walters at 130.

    In a perfect world, Walters/loma and rigo/lsc.
    Santa Cruz is at 126. So we can get Rigo-Santa Cruz at 126 but not Rigo-Lomachenko?

    Wow....sounds eerily like how GGG wants Chavez/Froch at 168 but not Ward.

    Whilst Walters continues to play the same bodyguard role of Kovalev.

    Same double standards, just a different side of the fence.

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    • #82
      man rigo is the most boring runner..he wins fights by running around the ring like a pu55y..btw "the stallion" fights only once a year he has no right to talk lol

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      • #83
        Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK View Post
        Santa Cruz is at 126. So we can get Rigo-Santa Cruz at 126 but not Rigo-Lomachenko?

        Wow....sounds eerily like how GGG wants Chavez/Froch at 168 but not Ward.

        Whilst Walters continues to play the same bodyguard role of Kovalev.

        Same double standards, just a different side of the fence.
        I didn't say no to rigo v loma. I simply said loma called him out to deflect from not wanting to fight Walters. Had loma called out vevetkya instead of rigo, very few would be discussing loma v rigo. Frankly, very few on NSB said anything about loma v rigo, it was mostly whether lsc was ducking him.

        So why I said I am hypocritical, loma v rigo was never the plan of loma or arum. That it's being discussed is primarily, if not singularly because arum and the tr matchmakers think loma still has a tough time applying his style against a bigger boxer puncher. Rigo is the easier road in this case.

        You know if the other possible choice was lsc or donaire than rigo wouldn't be the preferred choice.

        So there are some similarities and some differences in the situation. Its fair to point out hypocrisy. Just don't act like loma v rigo was a fight that was being planned or discussed. It was a face saving call out.

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        • #84
          that's is another big excuse, just an example, Floyd vs Pac Man, Canelo vs Erislandys, just don't help then to be a chicken on the run, ask then to man up and fight the best.

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          • #85
            Strongly agree, also, lama has no interest in fighting good opposition on lower class, otherwise he'll be agree on the catch weigh. and forts la Rata bub Arum to make the fight, like el Canelo did, like a great champs do.

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            • #86
              Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
              I didn't say no to rigo v loma. I simply said loma called him out to deflect from not wanting to fight Walters. Had loma called out vevetkya instead of rigo, very few would be discussing loma v rigo. Frankly, very few on NSB said anything about loma v rigo, it was mostly whether lsc was ducking him.

              So why I said I am hypocritical, loma v rigo was never the plan of loma or arum. That it's being discussed is primarily, if not singularly because arum and the tr matchmakers think loma still has a tough time applying his style against a bigger boxer puncher. Rigo is the easier road in this case.

              You know if the other possible choice was lsc or donaire than rigo wouldn't be the preferred choice.

              So there are some similarities and some differences in the situation. Its fair to point out hypocrisy. Just don't act like loma v rigo was a fight that was being planned or discussed. It was a face saving call out.
              Walters failed to make weight. I've never seen a fighter fail to make weight and the other fighter gets the blame for it. Is Haskins now ducking Caballero?

              Lomachenko has stated that he's going to move up in weight and Walters will be one of his targets so this idea that he's ducking Walters is not really based on anything other than your bias against him.

              Walters is your Kovalev. A protective shield for Rigo. I'll know never to take you seriously in Ward-GGG threads again.

              Not that I thought you were anything other than an agenda driven wanker.

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              • #87
                Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
                I didn't say no to rigo v loma. I simply said loma called him out to deflect from not wanting to fight Walters. Had loma called out vevetkya instead of rigo, very few would be discussing loma v rigo. Frankly, very few on NSB said anything about loma v rigo, it was mostly whether lsc was ducking him.

                So why I said I am hypocritical, loma v rigo was never the plan of loma or arum. That it's being discussed is primarily, if not singularly because arum and the tr matchmakers think loma still has a tough time applying his style against a bigger boxer puncher. Rigo is the easier road in this case.

                You know if the other possible choice was lsc or donaire than rigo wouldn't be the preferred choice.

                So there are some similarities and some differences in the situation. Its fair to point out hypocrisy. Just don't act like loma v rigo was a fight that was being planned or discussed. It was a face saving call out.
                Uh Rigo called out Loma

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                • #88
                  Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK View Post
                  You're the one that brought up race for absolutely no reason. It shows that you have some issues. You could have argued your point without mentioning race at all but you felt you had to go there for some reason.

                  Rigondeaux just fought a guy who came in at 140 odd pounds so obviously he can deal with guys that big. Just not if they are as good as Lomachenko. A bit like how Golovkin feels he can deal with Chavez/Froch but not Ward.

                  And we're talking 4lbs with Rigo. Whereas Golovkin has to go up 8.
                  why not frampton or quigg move up and deal with lomachenko?? i know the answer, is because rigo and the two brits still have unfinished bussines in 122.

                  we have discussion about rigo and these two brits two years ago and your excuse at that time was in 1 year the two brits will face each other than the winner will face rigo a year after that. it's been two year and the biggest britain fight aside from Brook vs Khan still isn't cooked yet.

                  i was right after all, the two britain fighters will finally face the cuban when Rigo reach the age of 36-37.

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                  • #89
                    Originally posted by NEETzsche View Post
                    floyd and manny moved up as they grew up. rigo is 35 years old and perfect at the weight. it's not the same at all. he would be at a significant disadvantage against lomachenko

                    that being said, he doesn't have many options. if he can't get frampton or quigg soon then maybe he should just gamble everything against loma, because i don't see anyone else he can make his legacy and get paid against, and time is running out. at this point in his career, his physical decline will be exponential. i'd rather see him go out with a **** than just fade away
                    Nobody is understanding what I am saying. Floyd and Manny didn't have to move up when they did. But, if you are chasing p4p greatness you must. Skills pay the bills. Anyone as good as Rigo should be able to traverse at least two weight classes.

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                    • #90
                      Originally posted by megas30 View Post
                      Nobody is understanding what I am saying. Floyd and Manny didn't have to move up when they did. But, if you are chasing p4p greatness you must. Skills pay the bills. Anyone as good as Rigo should be able to traverse at least two weight classes.
                      but they had the physical stature to grow into those divisions. rigondeaux at super bantam is like manny at welterweight. where they started is irrelevant; what matters is the maximum amount of useful weight their build can possibly carry

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