Comments Thread For: Rigondeaux: Cowards at 122 Won't Face This Stallion!

[Dirk Diggler UK]

why not frampton or quigg move up and deal with lomachenko?? i know the answer, is because rigo and the two brits still have unfinished bussines in 122.

we have discussion about rigo and these two brits two years ago and your excuse at that time was in 1 year the two brits will face each other than the winner will face rigo a year after that. it's been two year and the biggest britain fight aside from Brook vs Khan still isn't cooked yet.

i was right after all, the two britain fighters will finally face the cuban when Rigo reach the age of 36-37.

Frampton has only been world champion for 1 year so you've got your maths wrong.

I want Frampton-Rigo, Rigo-Lomachenko, Lomachenko-Walters. All boxing fans should want all these fights to happen.

I don't know why certain fans try so hard to protect their favourites and make excuses for them.

[The Big Dunn]

Walters failed to make weight. I've never seen a fighter fail to make weight and the other fighter gets the blame for it. Is Haskins now ducking Caballero?

Lomachenko has stated that he's going to move up in weight and Walters will be one of his targets so this idea that he's ducking Walters is not really based on anything other than your bias against him.

Walters is your Kovalev. A protective shield for Rigo. I'll know never to take you seriously in Ward-GGG threads again.

Not that I thought you were anything other than an agenda driven wanker.

I never said Loma was ducking Walters nor did I blame Loma for Walters making weight. Of course you know this,but in typical Dirk fashion you purposely distort the point being made to try and wedge it to fit whatever you believe.

Your point about being a rigo fan or protecting him also makes no sense. I am a fan of Leo Santa Cruz, which you know, and called for him to fight rigo. I get that your m.o. is to try and paint who you debate with a certain way then argue your theory or belief rather than their actual point, but you spent a few months saying I was protecting Leo from rigo now you are saying something else.

You are spending way too much time on NSB Dirk that you are making stuff up just to get an argument going.

Your distortion attempts aside, Loma and rigo was not a fight that was on the horizon or that was being discussed. It was a desperate attempt to save face for Loma and arum because fans didn't think Walters missing weight on that fight should close the door to the Walters v Loma fight.

Arum doesn't want to risk Loma in with a heavier fighter after salido beat him. Rigo surely isn't going to fight Loma and give him the same situation he will not accept. So Loma is as hypocritical as any of us.

As for whether GGG should move up to fight ward, I still say he should. Rigo can fight Loma after Loma fights walters, the fight we were all promised after they fought on the same card. And yes, it should still happen even though Walters no longer has a fw belt.

[elgu]

Rigo is right of course. The way the guys at 122 have been ducking him is disgraceful. That said neither Rigo or any other boxer should be accused of ducking if the opponent isn't in his division. Even less if the opponent is 2 divisions above.

[NEETzsche]

As for whether GGG should move up to fight ward, I still say he should. Rigo can fight Loma after Loma fights walters, the fight we were all promised after they fought on the same card. And yes, it should still happen even though Walters no longer has a fw belt.

you want loma to go to 130 for walters, then cut weight again to fight an even older rigondeaux back at 126 (or even 124)? that makes absolutely no sense

[The Big Dunn]

you want loma to go to 130 for walters, then cut weight again to fight an even older rigondeaux back at 126 (or even 124)? that makes absolutely no sense

Loma fighting at 130 doesn't make him a 130lb fighter. It's just the weight for the fight. It would be the same as Floyd fighting at 154 then at 147 and 152.

The Walters v Loma fight was what we were expecting next. If the fight can be made at 126, make it there. I just want the fight I was expecting next then Loma can do whatever he wishes next and I will watch it.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

I never said Loma was ducking Walters nor did I blame Loma for Walters making weight. Of course you know this,but in typical Dirk fashion you purposely distort the point being made to try and wedge it to fit whatever you believe.

Your point about being a rigo fan or protecting him also makes no sense. I am a fan of Leo Santa Cruz, which you know, and called for him to fight rigo. I get that your m.o. is to try and paint who you debate with a certain way then argue your theory or belief rather than their actual point, but you spent a few months saying I was protecting Leo from rigo now you are saying something else.

You are spending way too much time on NSB Dirk that you are making stuff up just to get an argument going.

Your distortion attempts aside, Loma and rigo was not a fight that was on the horizon or that was being discussed. It was a desperate attempt to save face for Loma and arum because fans didn't think Walters missing weight on that fight should close the door to the Walters v Loma fight.

Arum doesn't want to risk Loma in with a heavier fighter after salido beat him. Rigo surely isn't going to fight Loma and give him the same situation he will not accept. So Loma is as hypocritical as any of us.

As for whether GGG should move up to fight ward, I still say he should. Rigo can fight Loma after Loma fights walters, the fight we were all promised after they fought on the same card. And yes, it should still happen even though Walters no longer has a fw belt.

How is Rigondeaux going to fight Lomachenko after Lomachenko fights Walters?

Lomachenko vs. Walters will have to take place at 130 now because Walters couldn't make weight. Rigondeaux won't even move up to 126. So how is that scenario possible?

You want Lomachenko to fight Walters first because you win either way. Rigondeaux gets saved and never has to fight Lomachenko. You're desperately hoping the bigger man, Walters, beats Lomachenko. And even if he doesn't, Lomachenko vs. Rigo never happens because of the weight disparity.

EXACTLY the same situation with the GGG-Ward-Kovalev triangle. GGG fans know that once Ward moves up to 175, GGG-Ward never happens.

Come on Dunn, everyone knows your agenda here.

[NEETzsche]

Loma fighting at 130 doesn't make him a 130lb fighter. It's just the weight for the fight. It would be the same as Floyd fighting at 154 then at 147 and 152.

so you expect loma to fight a super feather while he still has the body of a featherweight? that would be a disadvantage. better to wait until he can make the full move to 130 and train for the weight

The Walters v Loma fight was what we were expecting next. If the fight can be made at 126, make it there. I just want the fight I was expecting next then Loma can do whatever he wishes next and I will watch it.

we were expecting it until walters messed it up. he can't make 126, his next fight is at 130. and even if he claimed he could make 126, why should lomachenko believe him when he's already failed to make weight once? and he'd probably just drain himself if he made a sincere attempt to hit 126 anyway

it's lomachenko's prerogative to decide when he wants to move up and walters will just have to wait. in the meantime he should try and pick up a strap - uchiyama called him out lately and that would be an excellent fight

[Dirk Diggler UK]

you want loma to go to 130 for walters, then cut weight again to fight an even older rigondeaux back at 126 (or even 124)? that makes absolutely no sense

Of course it doesn't

That's why Dunn is pushing that button so hard because he knows it's not feasible.

It's like asking Ward to go to 175 to fight Kovalev and then get back down to 164 to face Golovkin.

Same situations. Different reactions from Dunn and other posters.

[The Big Dunn]

How is Rigondeaux going to fight Lomachenko after Lomachenko fights Walters?

Lomachenko vs. Walters will have to take place at 130 now because Walters couldn't make weight. Rigondeaux won't even move up to 126. So how is that scenario possible?

You want Lomachenko to fight Walters first because you win either way. Rigondeaux gets saved and never has to fight Lomachenko. You're desperately hoping the bigger man, Walters, beats Lomachenko. And even if he doesn't, Lomachenko vs. Rigo never happens because of the weight disparity.

EXACTLY the same situation with the GGG-Ward-Kovalev triangle. GGG fans know that once Ward moves up to 175, GGG-Ward never happens.

Come on Dunn, everyone knows your agenda here.

The difference is Loma v Walters was supposed to happen next. Then, Walters missed weight. That didn't mean Walters wouldn't make weight if they signed the fight. It was always going to be before rigo v Loma. So now suddenly rigo has to happen first.

You yourself never suggested a rigo v Loma fight before Loma v Walters unless I missed it. So you want to alter plans just because arum and Loma think rigo is easier than Walters?

Loma hid behind Walters not having a belt to avoid fighting him. Then, when fans laughed at the names being kicked around instead, he and arum came up with rigo. Then fans responded, rightfully so, by pointing out that Loma was asking rigo to do what he was trying to avoid - fighting a bigger man.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

The difference is Loma v Walters was supposed to happen next. Then, Walters missed weight. That didn't mean Walters wouldn't make weight if they signed the fight. It was always going to be before rigo v Loma. So now suddenly rigo has to happen first.

You yourself never suggested a rigo v Loma fight before Loma v Walters unless I missed it. So you want to alter plans just because arum and Loma think rigo is easier than Walters?

Loma hid behind Walters not having a belt to avoid fighting him. Then, when fans laughed at the names being kicked around instead, he and arum came up with rigo. Then fans responded, rightfully so, by pointing out that Loma was asking rigo to do what he was trying to avoid - fighting a bigger man.

Why are you acting like there's some universal plan?

Lomachenko vs. Walters was supposed to happen but Walters ***ed up and missed weight. That's on Walters, not Lomachenko.

Walters ***ed up "the plans". Not Lomachenko. Not Arum.

Stop trying to speak for "the fans" when its your own pathetic agenda that your pushing here.