Comments Thread For: Rigondeaux: Cowards at 122 Won't Face This Stallion!

[NEETzsche]

I never said or implied Loma was ducking anyone. I think Bob and the tr matchmaker do not think Loma's style is effective in with bigger guys.

few fighters are effective against bigger guys, hence weight divisions. when loma opts to move to 130, he will put on muscle and then he'll be the same(ish) size as walters and once more it will be a fair fight. one that i expect loma to win, btw

[The Big Dunn]

few fighters are effective against bigger guys, hence weight divisions. when loma opts to move to 130, he will put on muscle and then he'll be the same(ish) size as walters and once more it will be a fair fight. one that i expect loma to win, btw

It would be a fair fight either way. With weigh ins being the way they are, fighters often give up weight. Walters looks to be an odh or donaire type that rehydrates a lot and is big in their weight classes.

I don't think Tr can't afford Loma losing again so they are waiting. If Walters looks vulnerable or can't make 130, then they will fight at 130. That isn't "fair" to quote you.

If he can beat him, he should be able to at 126, 128 or 130.

I just wish the fight happened as planned. Instead we got Loma v garbage and Walters v garbageman.

[NEETzsche]

Which fight is more difficult for Loma IYO, Walters (126, 128, 130) or rigo (126, 124)?

walters. younger, bigger and a very good boxer to boot. i would however pick loma to win at both 126 and 130 - but it would hurt his chances if he entered the ring unprepared for walters's size, which is why he shouldn't fight walters before permanently moving up to 130. you don't fight fighters in the division above without first putting on muscle unless they are just exhibition opponents (hence golovkin could fight froch at 168 and then move back down again afterwards, but couldn't fight ward and then move down afterwards - he'd need the extra 8 lbs of muscle to beat ward)

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Walters missed weight for one fight. He paid for it with his belt as he should. There is no reason the Walters v Loma fight was off the table because Walters missed weight. No reason for delays.

What agenda Dirk? Loma v Walters was the plan according to HBO and arum. Loma v rigo was a face save call out to distract from Walters. I wasn't the only one mad.

If Loma v rigo was in discussion when Walters v Loma was then you'd have a point.

Lomachenko-Walters isn't off the table though. It just has to wait until Lomachenko moves up in weight.

Lomanchenko doesn't have to go around chasing a guy who couldn't make weight.

Again, it's not his fault that Walters was unprofessional and came in overweight - I wonder why you are not fixated on that...

Why aren't you "mad" at Walters for ***ing up I wonder....?

[The Big Dunn]

walters. younger, bigger and a very good boxer to boot. i would however pick loma to win at both 126 and 130 - but it would hurt his chances if he entered the ring unprepared for walters's size, which is why he shouldn't fight walters before permanently moving up to 130. you don't fight fighters in the division above without first putting on muscle unless they are just exhibition opponents (hence golovkin could fight froch at 168 and then move back down again afterwards, but couldn't fight ward and then move down afterwards - he'd need the extra 8 lbs of muscle to beat ward)

I think Walters is more difficult to.

More only problem with your argument is saying fighting Walters at 130 means Loma has to move to 130. It doesn't mean that at all. The fight could be made at 128.

I just think it's like gamboa and juanma, arum and his team think the fighter with the higher economic ceiling will lose so he isn't eager to make the fight. I understand that completely.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

When did I say I didn't want to see both. I said Walters v Loma was supposed to happen. No one, not even you, was taking about Loma v rigo. Now. Just to argue, you are pretending Loma v rigo was a fight being planned and rigo avoided it.

The truth is Loma made a desperate attempt to save himself from the criticism he was receiving from fans for trying to fight others than Walters. you think that means rigo has to say yes and his refusing is the same as GGG v ward. Ok, there are similarities, but it's not exactly the same.

I am being hypocritical to a degree and admitted it in my initial post. That said, Loma needs to man up and fight walters. Do that then fight the face saving call out.

Had Walters made weight, would rigo v Loma even be discussed?

But Walters didn't make weight. That's what actually happened, Dunn. So blame Walters. Stop talking in what ifs and hypotheticals.

And stop acting like Rigondeaux-Lomachenko is some completely unnatural fight that no one wants. It's two double Olympic Gold Medalists only 4lbs apart.

They were both calling out each other on Twatter so stop with this "face saving" crap.

The reason it started to become discussed is because Walters missed weight and Lomachenko ran out of great options at 126 because the other champions are with Haymon. Similar to Ward's current situation at 168, wouldn't you say?

The only big fight left for Lomachenko at featherweight would be Rigondeaux moving up. Same as Ward's only big fight at 168 was GGG moving up.

Almost identical situations yet polar opposite reactions from you. Why is that?

I think "we" all know why

[The Big Dunn]

Lomachenko-Walters isn't off the table though. It just has to wait until Lomachenko moves up in weight.

Lomanchenko doesn't have to go around chasing a guy who couldn't make weight.

Again, it's not his fault that Walters was unprofessional and came in overweight - I wonder why you are not fixated on that...

Why aren't you "mad" at Walters for ***ing up I wonder....?

Why would anyone be mad at walters? He missed weight, tried to sweat it out, lost his belt. Him missing weight for that fight in no way means he would again. It also shouldn't have taken the next fight completely off the table imo.

Walters last opponent has every right to be pissed. But Loma suggesting he can't fight Walters 4 months later for missing weight previously is ridiculous. If it happens at the weigh in for their fight, then you'd have a valid point.

The fight isn't off the table because Walters missed weight. It's off the table because Loma and tr are thinking about loma's long term earning potential.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Why would anyone be mad at walters? He missed weight, tried to sweat it out, lost his belt. Him missing weight for that fight in no way means he would again. It also shouldn't have taken the next fight completely off the table imo.

Walters last opponent has every right to be pissed. But Loma suggesting he can't fight Walters 4 months later for missing weight previously is ridiculous. If it happens at the weigh in for their fight, then you'd have a valid point.

The fight isn't off the table because Walters missed weight. It's off the table because Loma and tr are thinking about loma's long term earning potential.

Because he was the unprofessional one who couldn't make weight. He scuppered a unification fight at 126lbs.

Why would anyone be mad at the fighter who was professional and kept his end of the bargain??

Why would the professional have to dance to the unprofessional's tune and follow him around?

Don't answer. Rhetorical question

[The Big Dunn]

But Walters didn't make weight. That's what actually happened, Dunn. So blame Walters. Stop talking in what ifs and hypotheticals.

And stop acting like Rigondeaux-Lomachenko is some completely unnatural fight that no one wants. It's two double Olympic Gold Medalists only 4lbs apart.

They were both calling out each other on Twatter so stop with this "face saving" crap.

The reason it started to become discussed is because Walters missed weight and Lomachenko ran out of great options at 126 because the other champions are with Haymon. Similar to Ward's current situation at 168, wouldn't you say?

The only big fight left for Lomachenko at featherweight would be Rigondeaux moving up. Same as Ward's only big fight at 168 was GGG moving up.

Almost identical situations yet polar opposite reactions from you. Why is that?

I think "we" all know why

If you think missing weight for his last fight makes it ok for Loma to move away from the fight, we disagree. 128, the weight Walters made, is closer to 126 than 122 is.

Fight the planned fight, adjust the weight to 128. Dont call out a smaller man with a rep that's easier than the guy you were supposed to fight.

If that's all that's left then leave 126.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

If you think missing weight for his last fight makes it ok for Loma to move away from the fight, we disagree. 128, the weight Walters made, is closer to 126 than 122 is.

Fight the planned fight, adjust the weight to 128. Dont call out a smaller man with a rep that's easier than the guy you were supposed to fight.

If that's all that's left then leave 126.

Walters moved away from the fight, not Lomachenko. Lomachenko should not be punished or disadvantaged for Walters being sloppy.

And again, Rigondeaux was just as vocal about fighting Lomachenko as the other way around.

Stop painting Rigondeaux as some bullied victim in the whole scenario. Exactly what the Golovkin fans do when Ward is mentioned

You guys are all alike! Kindred spirits but just on opposite sides of the spectrum.