Comments Thread For: Richard Schaefer is "Getting The Itch" To Come Back

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Weasels get itches all the time nothing to see here

[about.thousands]

Golden Boy's early success had nothing to do with Schaefer. It was Oscar's name and power in the sport at the time that made them a success overnight. The early superstar fighters signed because of Oscar the early HBO tv deals were because of HBO wanting to keep Oscar so they gave his company a huge platform early on for his fighters. The huge influx of latino fighters that signed to Golden Boy INCLUDING Canelo signed because they were fans of Oscar. You want to give Schaefer credit for the last few years and TV deals and working with Haymon ok. But the early years and how Golden Boy overnight was so successful was because of Oscar's name and involvement. You could of literally had anyone running the company at that time and it was going to be a hit. Fighters like Hopkins, Mosley, Morales, ect all signed because of Oscar not Schaefer.

If you think Oscar built Golden Boy Promotions you really don't know what's going on. I don't expect boxing fans to know the business of boxing but I expect them to be quiet if they don't know. To get you up on speed read this article by Hauser. It was written years ago.
http://www.secondsout.com/usa-boxing...den-boy-empire

Oscar came to Richard and asked him to help start a business. GBP was Schaefer's idea. HBO Latino boxing was Schaefer's idea. Getting AEG to invest into GBP and then turning around and buying a portion of the Houston Dynamos, a team AEG owned. The Barclay's deal. The HBO output deal. He's been a part of 4 of the top 10 highest selling boxing PPV's. It's so much more that I'm not going to get into right now. But if you think Schaefer ain't a good business man and great promoter you're crazy. He came from a banking background and built GBP from nothing to the #1 promoter in less than 10 years.

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If you think Oscar built Golden Boy Promotions you really don't know what's going on. I don't expect boxing fans to know the business of boxing but I expect them to be quiet if they don't know. To get you up on speed read this article by Hauser. It was written years ago.
http://www.secondsout.com/usa-boxing...den-boy-empire

Oscar came to Richard and asked him to help start a business. GBP was Schaefer's idea. HBO Latino boxing was Schaefer's idea. Getting AEG to invest into GBP and then turning around and buying a portion of the Houston Dynamos, a team AEG owned. The Barclay's deal. The HBO output deal. He's been a part of 4 of the top 10 highest selling boxing PPV's. It's so much more that I'm not going to get into right now. But if you think Schaefer ain't a good business man and great promoter you're crazy. He came from a banking background and built GBP from nothing to the #1 promoter in less than 10 years.

Did he say GBP was a success overnight?

It's one thing if you haven't been following the sport that long. It's another to pretend you have.

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as for my opinion,origianally i figured he would take over ellerbes spot at mayweather promotions and use it as the head promoter for PBC series(basically every single PBC event will be "promoted" by mayweather promotions by showcasing at least one mayweather promotons fighter on the card) and that way haymon doesnt look like a promoter anymore,since hes a manager only.

but seeing as mayweather promotions isnt really profitable at the moment since they dont have any rfighters,i think he will end up joining PBC in a high rank poisition over there since he and haymon are boxing geniuses and they kno how to profit in a unprofitable sport like boxing

[Eff Pandas]

I think its obvious he'll be doing something with Haymon/PBC. What that is will be interesting I'm sure.

I suppose its possible he just becomes a independent contractor-like PBC promoter with probably a inside track at getting the bigger fights. I feel like he'll be taking a role with PBC itself of some sort, but a high up role. I don't think he takes the Mayweather Promotions gig as Floyd offered him, although I suppose its possible & Mayweather just wants to make Elerbe cry in public.

[The Gambler1981]

Good PBC needs a face and voice to really grow. Someone who is out in the media talking up the product, what is going to happen, why certain stuff is happening or why other stuff isn't. PBC has a certain direction and plans but no one knows what they are or explains **** which makes the whole thing a mystery. Schaeffer can also bring in some good ideas of his own and bringing in another good boxing person is always a positive.

Plus his Swiss accent is awesome~


The only way I would see him going to HBO is if their heir apparent gets popped again before taking charge, which is why Hershman got the job. Even then their second in house choice would probably still be go to guy, since they aren't really cleaning house this time.

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I think its obvious he'll be doing something with Haymon/PBC. What that is will be interesting I'm sure.

I suppose its possible he just becomes a independent contractor-like PBC promoter with probably a inside track at getting the bigger fights. I feel like he'll be taking a role with PBC itself of some sort, but a high up role. I don't think he takes the Mayweather Promotions gig as Floyd offered him, although I suppose its possible & Mayweather just wants to make Elerbe cry in public.

see the thing is is that alot of fighters that are under the PBC brand are currently unpromoted,all the top guys like porter,garcia,thuryman,khan(i think), spence,broner and so on are not promoted by anyone,so if schaefer could get all these guys to join mayweather promotions it might make sense to become the president then,but otherwise if these guys want to remain unpromoted then theres no incentive for him to do so,and hes better off taking a PBC related role. but really its up to haymon,if haymon suggest to these young fighters to join M. promotions,they will do so

as far as i know, PBC/haymon pretty munch only use dibella promotions as a "front" incase people start asking questions why he looks so much like a promoter rather then a manager.

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as for my opinion,origianally i figured he would take over ellerbes spot at mayweather promotions and use it as the head promoter for PBC series(basically every single PBC event will be "promoted" by mayweather promotions by showcasing at least one mayweather promotons fighter on the card) and that way haymon doesnt look like a promoter anymore,since hes a manager only.

Definitely not gonna happen.

One of the big advantages of PBC is they got 6 main promoters they use currently (TGB/DiBella/GYM/Mayweather/Warriors/Leija Bettah) along with some sort of agreement with Eddie Hearn that brings some of his UK fighters to the US (& I suspect US fighters to the UK at some point in the future when the UK PBC TV deal pops off) & all those promoters fighters are under the PBC fold by association with Haymon's main promoters. This basically increases the critical mass of talent that PBC needs & requires to be successful. They don't want less promoters with PBC, they won't more promoters with PBC cuz that means more fighters & more fighters is whats gonna give PBC the W.

[about.thousands]

Did he say GBP was a success overnight?

It's one thing if you haven't been following the sport that long. It's another to pretend you have.

lol these guys like to repeat the lie "Al Haymon stole De La Hoya's fighters because Scaefer didn't resign them". No, that's not what happened. They were re-signed, Haymon put a buy-out clause in their contract. That's why he was able to buy out LSC earlier this year as well as other GBP. Oscar's problem with Haymon is that once again he got out smarted.

According to De La Hoya, in the process of negotiating the settlement, Haymon communicated "affirmative statements" about working with Golden Boy to promote his fighters in the future. Yet according to a declaration of Al Haymon, 20 days later on Jan. 8, 2015, he "exercised a discretionary right" to end his business relationship with Golden Boy (and presumably buy out his fighters).

De La Hoya claims Golden Boy never would've made the agreement had they known Haymon would buy out his fighters so soon and, therefore, have been damaged in excess of $100 million.

The keyword there is "buy-out" meaning they were still signed to GBP with a buy-out clause. The same way Oscar and Floyd bought their way out from underneath Bob Arum.

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Definitely not gonna happen.

One of the big advantages of PBC is they got 6 main promoters they use currently (TGB/DiBella/GYM/Mayweather/Warriors/Leija Bettah) along with some sort of agreement with Eddie Hearn that brings some of his UK fighters to the US (& I suspect US fighters to the UK at some point in the future when the UK PBC TV deal pops off) & all those promoters fighters are under the PBC fold by association with Haymon's main promoters. This basically increases the critical mass of talent that PBC needs & requires to be successful. They don't want less promoters with PBC, they won't more promoters with PBC cuz that means more fighters & more fighters is whats gonna give PBC the W.

ok well that makes sense,i thought that haymon would eventually want all of his major talent under one tree and one promotional outlet (mwyeather promotions) to keep all the mony in-house sorta since he and floyd are close. and then when he gets all the top guys, all the young up and comers see that all of the "money makers" in boxing are all under one promoter and that makes them want to join that same promoter too