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  • bojangles1987
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    #31
    Originally posted by LacedUp
    Definitely not.

    Kovalev is a tougher fighter for Froch OBVIOUSLY, but GGG has more assets to his game than Kovalev imo.

    Though Kovalev showed great skills vs Hopkins.

    GGG is the more athletic and generally more diverse in his fighting style.
    I could not disagree more with that. I've seen Kovalev show much more diversity. I've seen him show more skill going backwards, I've seen him counter punch much better, I've seen him set traps at least on Golovkin's level, I've seen him throw better combinations, and his jab to the body is something Golovkin should learn to do.

    Not to mention he's done all this against much better competition. The day Golovkin has set up a counter punch like Kovalev did to knock down a fighter like Hopkins has yet to come.

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      #32
      Originally posted by Daddy T
      GGG is the superior boxer p4p but yeah Kovalev would be too much for froch. Too big, too much power and very good at controlling the distance. Froch would have a better shot against GGG due to size not due to Kovalev being 'better' than GGG imo. Kovalev is a big light heavy. GGG is a small to perfect sized middleweight.

      Yeah I read the same sht way too many times before. Actually Broner should of never moved up and than I could of copied and paste what everyone says about ggg.

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        #33
        Originally posted by LacedUp
        Didn't say he fought off the backfoot. Because he never had to.
        Yeah because his opposition level has been so weak. It doesn't take athleticism to walk down overmatched opponents and **** them out.

        Kovalev is much lighter on his feet, is comfortable punching off the front and back foot. Throws faster combinations. Just a more fluid and rounded fighter.

        Originally posted by Daddy T
        GGG is the superior boxer p4p but yeah Kovalev would be too much for froch. Too big, too much power and very good at controlling the distance. Froch would have a better shot against GGG due to size not due to Kovalev being 'better' than GGG imo. Kovalev is a big light heavy. GGG is a small to perfect sized middleweight.
        Based on what exactly? Kovalev is better in every tangible department. He's shown more and against better opposition.

        A win over Kovalev means more than a win over GGG.

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          #34
          Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
          Kovalev/Stevenson type opponent?

          They would both be tougher fights than GGG.
          I think that Froch would be able to deal with Stevenson at 175.

          As about Kovalev? I can only imagine the Krusher's "smile" rictus when hearing about a Froch fight...

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          • LacedUp
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            #35
            Originally posted by bojangles1987
            I could not disagree more with that. I've seen Kovalev show much more diversity. I've seen him show more skill going backwards, I've seen him counter punch much better, I've seen him set traps at least on Golovkin's level, I've seen him throw better combinations, and his jab to the body is something Golovkin should learn to do.

            Not to mention he's done all this against much better competition. The day Golovkin has set up a counter punch like Kovalev did to knock down a fighter like Hopkins has yet to come.
            Yes he fought on the backfoot in one fight. But I don't think he has more assets to his game regardless, and I definitely don't think he's more athletic.

            I know Geale is by no means a Hopkins, but he counter KOd him with one punch and took him out. GGG is the king of setting up traps, I'm sorry but Kovalev is not on that level imo.

            GGG will give you a hook to the top of the head and go downstairs and break your ribs in one move. I have yet to see Kovalev to that.

            I'm not saying Kovalev does everything worse than GGG by any means. But GGG has more punches in his arsenal from what I've seen.

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              #36
              Originally posted by LacedUp
              Yes he fought on the backfoot in one fight. But I don't think he has more assets to his game regardless, and I definitely don't think he's more athletic.

              I know Geale is by no means a Hopkins, but he counter KOd him with one punch and took him out. GGG is the king of setting up traps, I'm sorry but Kovalev is not on that level imo.

              GGG will give you a hook to the top of the head and go downstairs and break your ribs in one move. I have yet to see Kovalev to that.

              I'm not saying Kovalev does everything worse than GGG by any means. But GGG has more punches in his arsenal from what I've seen.
              Since when is walking straight forward face first into a punch like a ****** "setting up a trap"? It would have been impressive if Golovkin had slipped the punch and then KO'd Geale.

              Kovalev set up traps all night for Hopkins. Hopkins would try to counter him coming in and Kovalev would step back, make Hopkins miss and counter his counter. That's how the KD occured if I recall correctly.

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                #37
                Originally posted by Daddy T
                Hearn seems to really want the GGG fight. he is talking about it a lot. He must reckon it is the bigger money spinner. Froch seems to be more interested in Degale though and talks about him more than GGG.
                Yes, strange.

                I have previously posted that Degale would earn Froch more than Golovkin. Looks like my "calculations" were off!

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by tokon
                  Yes, strange.

                  I have previously posted that Degale would earn Froch more than Golovkin. Looks like my "calculations" were off!
                  What's strange? Froch "quit boxing" exactly on talks on a possible GGG fight, actually. Therefore Hearn "has" to use Golovkin's name in order to pick up things from where they stopped...

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by tokon
                    Yes, strange.

                    I have previously posted that Degale would earn Froch more than Golovkin. Looks like my "calculations" were off!
                    In the UK, DeGale is more lucrative. I think Hearn is looking at Froch-Golovkin in America because of US PPV revenue.

                    Froch-GGG in the UK would not be PPV in America because of the start time.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by LacedUp
                      Definitely not.

                      Kovalev is a tougher fighter for Froch OBVIOUSLY, but GGG has more assets to his game than Kovalev imo.

                      Though Kovalev showed great skills vs Hopkins.

                      GGG is the more athletic and generally more diverse in his fighting style.
                      GGG fights out of a crouch, blocking, slipping and rolling to avoid punches while coming forward, and rarely takes a backward step.

                      Kovalev fights tall and reminds me of Wlad in that his main defence is control of distance with footwork. He seems to have very quick reflexes, and will step back out of range of a punch the instant his opponent even starts to throw it, then straight back in with a counter before they have chance to reset.

                      Both are pretty athletic, but, of course, very different in physique.

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