Another myth: Mayweather moving up five divisions while GGG not willing to moveup one

[_Maxi]

I've never heard anyone say Floyd moved up five divisions. What are you even talking about?

So Floyd who already moved up 5 divisions now has to fight a middleweight??? But that middleweight cant move up 1 damn division??

See? was I lying? Fresh post.

[aldo5408]

Mayweather won titles in five divisions. Yes, he moved up four times.

Good post green k sent

[Tago Nang Tago]

let's be honest the only poeple who want to see ggg move up are the race based naysayers who want to see him lose! they want to see his historic reign of knockouts to continue! but the sad thing they dont know is that ggg will move up eventually knock ward back into retirement home in oakland!

[aldo5408]

let's be honest the only poeple who want to see ggg move up are the race based naysayers who want to see him lose! they want to see his historic reign of knockouts to continue! but the sad thing they dont know is that ggg will move up eventually knock ward back into retirement home in oakland!

Hell yeah bro

[big_james10]

I have already debunked the myth that says that Mayweather is outweighed by 10-20 pounds each fight. See here.

Lets proceed with the next one: "Floyd took risks and moved up five divisions."


1) Mayweather did not move up five divisions.

He started professionally at 130. The maximum division he fought at was 154. Lets count:

130->135 = 1 move
135->140 = 2 move
140->147 = 3 move
147->154 = 4 move

So he moved up 4 times, not 5.

Also, he became professional at 19 years old. So he didn't just move up, he grown up most of the time.

2) When Golovkin was 19 years old, he was fighting in the amateurs as a welterweight. He turned pro very late, at 24 years old. If we make the same comparison, he grown up two divisions.

147->154 = 1 move
154->160 = 2 move

So he has moved up two times. I think that sometime in the future he will move up for a few fights at 168, like Mayweather did at 154.

3) I've also heard: "Even Ward moved up one division, he started at 160". Ward started at 160 when he was 20 years old in 2004. When he was 24, he was already a 168 fighter.

4) Fighters from the smaller divisions tend to be able to move up more divisions easily for two reasons:
a) The divisions are separated by 4 or 5 pounds instead of 7 or 8.
b) The fighters in the small divisions train differently, they are usually more skinny, and they still have margin for winning easy weight by changing the training method. The fighters in the bigger weights have no chance of naturally moving up more than one division. The only thing they can do is take steroids to grow muscle (like Roy Jones did to be able to move up)

and 5) You don't need to move up to prove you're great. Andre Ward can stay at 168 and I'll never criticize him for that. There's no need to criticize a fighter just because of jealousy. Ward had his moment in 2011-2012. Golovkin is having his moment now, let the guy be. He is beating anyone, winning all rounds, and KOing everyone.

6) If moving up in weight is what makes you great, then Pacquiao (moved up seven times) and DLH (moved up five times) are greater than Mayweather.

7) There's a pattern in 99% of his fights. He's the taller guy or the guy with more reach. He never fights being outsized. Being outsized is one of the risks of boxing, but he never takes that risk. He only did it a few times in all his career. He CAN make 160, but he knows it means losing the size advantage. Other fighters with less height than him, such as Cotto or Duran, have fought in the 160 division.

You haven't debunked a damn thing. The only person who has ever said Mayweather moved up five divisions is YOU! Mayweather fought in five weight classes. He moved up from 130 to 154 during his professional career. Golovkin has fought at 160 for all of his professional fights. That is a fact! You can't debunk it, no matter how many asinine threads you produce!

[aldo5408]

You haven't debunked a damn thing. The only person who has ever said Mayweather moved up five divisions is YOU! Mayweather fought in five weight classes. He moved up from 130 to 154 during his professional career. Golovkin has fought at 160 for all of his professional fights. That is a fact! You can't debunk it, no matter how many asinine threads you produce!

Green k sent

[Scipio2009]

I have already debunked the myth that says that Mayweather is outweighed by 10-20 pounds each fight. See here.

Lets proceed with the next one: "Floyd took risks and moved up five divisions."


1) Mayweather did not move up five divisions.

He started professionally at 130. The maximum division he fought at was 154. Lets count:

130->135 = 1 move
135->140 = 2 move
140->147 = 3 move
147->154 = 4 move

So he moved up 4 times, not 5.

Also, he became professional at 19 years old. So he didn't just move up, he grown up most of the time.

2) When Golovkin was 19 years old, he was fighting in the amateurs as a welterweight. He turned pro very late, at 24 years old. If we make the same comparison, he grown up two divisions.

147->154 = 1 move
154->160 = 2 move

So he has moved up two times. I think that sometime in the future he will move up for a few fights at 168, like Mayweather did at 154.

3) I've also heard: "Even Ward moved up one division, he started at 160". Ward started at 160 when he was 20 years old in 2004. When he was 24, he was already a 168 fighter.

4) Fighters from the smaller divisions tend to be able to move up more divisions easily for two reasons:
a) The divisions are separated by 4 or 5 pounds instead of 7 or 8.
b) The fighters in the small divisions train differently, they are usually more skinny, and they still have margin for winning easy weight by changing the training method. The fighters in the bigger weights have no chance of naturally moving up more than one division. The only thing they can do is take steroids to grow muscle (like Roy Jones did to be able to move up)

and 5) You don't need to move up to prove you're great. Andre Ward can stay at 168 and I'll never criticize him for that. There's no need to criticize a fighter just because of jealousy. Ward had his moment in 2011-2012. Golovkin is having his moment now, let the guy be. He is beating anyone, winning all rounds, and KOing everyone.

6) If moving up in weight is what makes you great, then Pacquiao (moved up seven times) and DLH (moved up five times) are greater than Mayweather.

7) There's a pattern in 99% of his fights. He's the taller guy or the guy with more reach. He never fights being outsized. Being outsized is one of the risks of boxing, but he never takes that risk. He only did it a few times in all his career. He CAN make 160, but he knows it means losing the size advantage. Other fighters with less height than him, such as Cotto or Duran, have fought in the 160 division.

... please point to a single professional fight where Golovkin fought below 160lbs. lol

Golovkin has been fighting 165 or less since the age of 21; hilarious to see you try to muddle Golovkin's amateur experience to try and save face.

[PACnPBFsuck]

... please point to a single professional fight where Golovkin fought below 160lbs. lol

Golovkin has been fighting 165 or less since the age of 21; hilarious to see you try to muddle Golovkin's amateur experience to try and save face.

His Floyd obsession is damaging his brain.

[Rath]

He already beat the man one on one.

nope final score card says red corner won, slow mo videos confirms that.

[SugarRayCurtain]

GGG is not a big middleweight people, hes an averaged sized middleweight and I bet Canelo is actually the bigger man
Why is it a requirement that GGG goes up to 168lbs to challenge Ward?
Ward moved up because he was struggling to make the SMW limit, hes also a tall guy at 6'1 so his capacity to move up weightclasses is more than GGG whos only what 5'10-5'11?
GGG doesnt struggle to make the MW limit and looked chubby in his last fight against Wade.
GGG needs to fight the best in his division, he hasnt done that yet. He has no business fighting ward because he hasnt actually proved hes the best in the MW division yet, no matter how many people say otherwise.