Another myth: Mayweather moving up five divisions while GGG not willing to moveup one

[Thraxox]

Pacquiao had no amateur career. When Floyd started amateurs he started in the same weight class Pacquiao started in as a pro. Your argument in the OP is that Golovkin has moved up, but counting his amateur career.

When pacquiao was still 19 years old he was till at flyweight while Floyd is already at 130 so that argument fails.

[RomanReigns]

Might be the dumbest poster in this forum! Don't start another thread Op.

[Ray Corso]

Mayweather moved up because he couldn't make past weights!
How ****** do you need to be to not understand this?
His first few years at welter he could get back to 140 but his last 4 to 5 would have been tough.
I don't know why fans think it's so easy to loose weight and be strong I guess it's because they have no clue what it takes to be a pro boxer.
If GGG couldn't make 160 comfortably he'd have to move up.

Why is this so hard to understand? What athlete weighs what he weighed when 22 years old when he's 34 years old?

Ray

[SkillspayBills]

You are LITERALLY, LITERALLY embarrassing GGG fans.

[j0zef]

Dude's making it his goal to bump a post from a year ago every 3 months. Say one thing for the Golovkin haters, they're absolutely obsessed.

Yikes. It's worse than I thought. Aldo, who supposedly has me ignored, decided to both redK this post and misspell a curse word in his comments.

[Kazakh Boxing]

I have already debunked the myth that says that Mayweather is outweighed by 10-20 pounds each fight. See here.

Lets proceed with the next one: "Floyd took risks and moved up five divisions."


1) Mayweather did not move up five divisions.

He started professionally at 130. The maximum division he fought at was 154. Lets count:

130->135 = 1 move
135->140 = 2 move
140->147 = 3 move
147->154 = 4 move

So he moved up 4 times, not 5.

Also, he became professional at 19 years old. So he didn't just move up, he grown up most of the time.

2) When Golovkin was 19 years old, he was fighting in the amateurs as a welterweight. He turned pro very late, at 24 years old. If we make the same comparison, he grown up two divisions.

147->154 = 1 move
154->160 = 2 move

So he has moved up two times. I think that sometime in the future he will move up for a few fights at 168, like Mayweather did at 154.

3) I've also heard: "Even Ward moved up one division, he started at 160". Ward started at 160 when he was 20 years old in 2004. When he was 24, he was already a 168 fighter.

4) Fighters from the smaller divisions tend to be able to move up more divisions easily for two reasons:
a) The divisions are separated by 4 or 5 pounds instead of 7 or 8.
b) The fighters in the small divisions train differently, they are usually more skinny, and they still have margin for winning easy weight by changing the training method. The fighters in the bigger weights have no chance of naturally moving up more than one division. The only thing they can do is take steroids to grow muscle (like Roy Jones did to be able to move up)

and 5) You don't need to move up to prove you're great. Andre Ward can stay at 168 and I'll never criticize him for that. There's no need to criticize a fighter just because of jealousy. Ward had his moment in 2011-2012. Golovkin is having his moment now, let the guy be. He is beating anyone, winning all rounds, and KOing everyone.

6) If moving up in weight is what makes you great, then Pacquiao (moved up seven times) and DLH (moved up five times) are greater than Mayweather.

7) There's a pattern in 99% of his fights. He's the taller guy or the guy with more reach. He never fights being outsized. Being outsized is one of the risks of boxing, but he never takes that risk. He only did it a few times in all his career. He CAN make 160, but he knows it means losing the size advantage. Other fighters with less height than him, such as Cotto or Duran, have fought in the 160 division.

[LoadedWraps]

I have already debunked the myth that says that Mayweather is outweighed by 10-20 pounds each fight. See here.

Lets proceed with the next one: "Floyd took risks and moved up five divisions."


1) Mayweather did not move up five divisions.

He started professionally at 130. The maximum division he fought at was 154. Lets count:

130->135 = 1 move
135->140 = 2 move
140->147 = 3 move
147->154 = 4 move

So he moved up 4 times, not 5.

Also, he became professional at 19 years old. So he didn't just move up, he grown up most of the time.

2) When Golovkin was 19 years old, he was fighting in the amateurs as a welterweight. He turned pro very late, at 24 years old. If we make the same comparison, he grown up two divisions.

147->154 = 1 move
154->160 = 2 move

So he has moved up two times. I think that sometime in the future he will move up for a few fights at 168, like Mayweather did at 154.

3) I've also heard: "Even Ward moved up one division, he started at 160". Ward started at 160 when he was 20 years old in 2004. When he was 24, he was already a 168 fighter.

4) Fighters from the smaller divisions tend to be able to move up more divisions easily for two reasons:
a) The divisions are separated by 4 or 5 pounds instead of 7 or 8.
b) The fighters in the small divisions train differently, they are usually more skinny, and they still have margin for winning easy weight by changing the training method. The fighters in the bigger weights have no chance of naturally moving up more than one division. The only thing they can do is take steroids to grow muscle (like Roy Jones did to be able to move up)

and 5) You don't need to move up to prove you're great. Andre Ward can stay at 168 and I'll never criticize him for that. There's no need to criticize a fighter just because of jealousy. Ward had his moment in 2011-2012. Golovkin is having his moment now, let the guy be. He is beating anyone, winning all rounds, and KOing everyone.

6) If moving up in weight is what makes you great, then Pacquiao (moved up seven times) and DLH (moved up five times) are greater than Mayweather.

7) There's a pattern in 99% of his fights. He's the taller guy or the guy with more reach. He never fights being outsized. Being outsized is one of the risks of boxing, but he never takes that risk. He only did it a few times in all his career. He CAN make 160, but he knows it means losing the size advantage. Other fighters with less height than him, such as Cotto or Duran, have fought in the 160 division.

[b00g13man]

[GoldenGloveLove]

If you took more than 30 seconds to type this out, you have no filter.

[SplitSecond]

Mayweather moved up because he couldn't make past weights!
How ****** do you need to be to not understand this?
His first few years at welter he could get back to 140 but his last 4 to 5 would have been tough.
I don't know why fans think it's so easy to loose weight and be strong I guess it's because they have no clue what it takes to be a pro boxer.
If GGG couldn't make 160 comfortably he'd have to move up.

Why is this so hard to understand? What athlete weighs what he weighed when 22 years old when he's 34 years old?

Ray

They know. They just like being dishonest.