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  • #51
    Originally posted by Bipolar Hero View Post
    In the first fight blood was falling from Cotto's face like a waterfall. In the second fight Cotto had a few bruises. The difference is night and day.
    He couldn't take those punches at all in the 1st fight.

    Those punches were crippling him.

    I dont know what others were watching, but I saw a completely different fight.

    Margarito was not nearly as effective, despite the fight playing out similarly.

    Cotto wasn't bothered by those punches to anywhere near the same extent.

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    • #52
      Originally posted by aboutfkntime View Post
      He couldn't take those punches at all in the 1st fight.

      Those punches were crippling him.

      I dont know what others were watching, but I saw a completely different fight.

      Margarito was not nearly as effective, despite the fight playing out similarly.

      Cotto wasn't bothered by those punches to anywhere near the same extent.
      Exactly, the same punches had a completely different effect in the 1st fight compared to the 2nd. The pace of the fight was similar in both fights, but the effects the punches had on Cotto was night and day. Can't believe people still deny this sht.

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      • #53
        The Story

        The fact that people still argue with such conviction about Cotto-Margarito reinforces the fact that, when this era is long past, the controversy will live on.

        Re-watching the first fight, I do believe that Margarito cheated and, in so doing, cheated Cotto out of his prime. People will always say "there's no direct evidence," but there's enough circumstantial evidence to persuade me that the beating Cotto took was not on the level. I think Margarito cheated Cotto out of his prime, which is the worst thing one competitor can do to another elite athlete.

        As for the second fight, people say that Margarito was coming on in the second fight when it was stopped. Though Margarito never stopped coming forward, he was still getting his head snapped back in the final round. The fact that he was coming forward with increasing urgency was a sign of desperation more than anything else. He was not landing great, telling blows like he did in the first fight.

        Plus, though the camera does not get a great angle on them, Cotto landed a a couple of huge left hooks with about a minute left in the final round that had Margarito falling forward onto Cotto. Margarito kept coming forward, but he still lost that final round decisively.

        Had the second fight continued, it would not have ended up like the first fight. Margarito was only landing arm punches; Cotto's face gets marked up when the wind blows. M's punches just were not having the same impact as in the first fight.

        In any event, Cotto-Margarito is the best boxing story of its era. It has it all: competition, vengeance, violence...and, ultimately, mystery. There should be a book about it.
        Last edited by bigjer88; 11-01-2015, 04:56 PM. Reason: missed a word

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        • #54
          Originally posted by theocdog View Post
          damn, the court of law must be a fantasy land. i didnt know it wasnt the real world. lol
          You need 100% proof if you are electing to use the judicial system.

          There are other systems that work just as efficiently.

          People hide behind the burden of proof dude, " knowing " is far more important.

          The guy who shot that sex offender who ****d his son after the legal system failed to find him guilty..... "KNEW".

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          • #55
            Originally posted by Bipolar Hero View Post
            Cotto got his face shredded by plaster, which is even worse, and it now swells and bruises even when barely touched. And even under these circumstances Margarito barely damaged his face in the second fight after landing repeated uppercuts.

            Marg's punches simply didn't have anywhere close the same effect it had in the first fight.

            Obvious sht is obvious.
            Margarito didn't land anywhere near the same amount of punches in the second fight because he wasn't the same fighter.

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            • #56
              Originally posted by aboutfkntime View Post
              He couldn't take those punches at all in the 1st fight.

              Those punches were crippling him.

              I dont know what others were watching, but I saw a completely different fight.

              Margarito was not nearly as effective, despite the fight playing out similarly.

              Cotto wasn't bothered by those punches to anywhere near the same extent.
              He clearly was bothered. He was in full retreat towards the end with that same distressed look on his face in the second fight.

              Not everything is black and white. Cotto did fight a better fight second time around but Margarito wasn't the same force. Cotto also got his nose broken early in the first fight, he didn't have to fight through something like that the second time.

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              • #57
                Originally posted by Lords View Post
                A third fight would be just as easy as the second, pointless fight. Cotto doesn't want to give this coward a pay day as well. Fuc him.
                Uh, you do know that 2 fighters get paid when there's a match, right? And BTW, Cotto can count on one hand the number of fights he would get paid as well as a Margarito fight. So I'd say the diva needs to wake up and smell the stack o' cashish. He doesn't have to like or respect the guy to get a huge payday from fighting him.

                His diva talk here makes about as much sense as him saying GGG isn't a legend yet and deserves no respect or fight.

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                • #58
                  Originally posted by bigjer88 View Post
                  The fact that people still argue with such conviction about Cotto-Margarito reinforces the fact that, when this era is long past, the controversy will live on.

                  Re-watching the first fight, I do believe that Margarito and, in so doing, cheated Cotto out of his prime. People will always say "there's no direct evidence," but there's enough circumstantial evidence to persuade me that the beating Cotto took was not on the level. I think Margarito cheated Cotto our of his prime, which is the worst thing one competitor can do to another elite athlete.

                  People say that Margarito was coming on in the second fight when it was stopped. Margarito's stamina is legendary, but he was still getting his head snapped back in the final round. The fact that he was coming forward with increasing urgency was a sign of desperation more than anything else. He was not landing great, telling blows like he did in the first fight. Plus, Cotto landed a a couple of huge left hooks with about a minute left in the final round that had Margarito falling forward onto Cotto. True, Margarito kept coming forward, but he still lost that round decisively.

                  Had the second fight continued, it would not have ended up like the first fight. Margarito was only landing arm punches throughout the first 9 rounds in the second fight. His punches just were not having the same impact as in the first fight.

                  IN any event, Cotto-Margarito is the best boxing saga of its era. There should be a book about it.
                  Margarito did exactly the same thing 1 round before Mosley kHTFO.

                  And he did exactly the same thing when Pacquiao was tattooing him.

                  Margarito is tough/relentless..... but Cotto had that fight under control.

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                  • #59
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                    Originally Posted by Vilicious86 View Post
                    Margarito wasn't building steam when the second fight was stopped. People always say that nonsense.

                    Originally posted by tgoodm10 View Post
                    Margarito was coming on strong and Cotto knows it. Cotto knows that he can't hurt Margarito.
                    Sure looked to me like he was coming on. Wondering if Cotto did a Floydie with the ref?

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                    • #60
                      Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK View Post
                      Margarito didn't land anywhere near the same amount of punches in the second fight because he wasn't the same fighter.
                      I think Cotto fought a great fight, he was obviously trying to limit the damage.

                      But Margarito did land on him in the last 2/3 rounds before the stoppage, the punches just did not seem to have the same effect..... in the first fight they were thudding blows that battered Cotto and stopped him in his tracks.

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