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  • Jc8804
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    #31
    Originally posted by 285Kid
    All the title are still going to be around , its just the guy holding the WBA,IBF, WBA, WBO Permier world title is the main man in division
    isnt that what a ring champ is??

    No more belts please..

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    • Eff Pandas
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      #32
      Originally posted by BrushMyHair!
      Haymon wanted to have PBC Belts. The Idea of one champion. So pretty much the sanctioning bodies are doing kinda what Haymon wanted.
      Lets not get ahead of ourselves.

      First Haymon is years away or ~50 elite level top 3 kinda fighters signing with him from having a meaningful PBC belt. If PBC came out with a belt tomorrow at best it'd be in competition with the IBO as the 5th best belt (or 6th if you count the Ring belt) in the sport & I'd probably rank it underneath the IBO & I'm a pro-PBC cat.

      Second the alphabet groups haven't even implemented any (I don't believe) changes across the board yet from their summits last year, most of which are far simpler to put in action, let alone one as huge as a unified champion.

      And third, the WBO isn't even on board with any of this summit **** so if the best guy or one of the arguable best guys is with the WBO there still isn't gonna be "The Champion" in a division necessarily.

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        #33
        Originally posted by Jc8804
        isnt that what a ring champ is??
        Not really. The Ring title just has stricter guidelines on being their champion, which last I checked led to many of their titles being vacant. This sorta "premier" title, in theory, would make sure there is a champion of champions going on at all times. Main issue is I doubt the alphabet groups can agree on such a setup. I mean the WBO isn't even on board yet in just the preliminary discussion stage.

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        • killakali
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          #34
          Originally posted by Eff Pandas
          Is this new news or old news? Cuz the WBC been trying to do that for awhile? But they can't get all the alphabet groups on board last I heard. Believe one alphabet group is 100% against it.

          Obviously the name of it is interesting. Wonder if its the WBC saying "I see what you're doing Haymon" or if Haymon stole the premier word for himself or if this is new news & something that could be interesting involving alphabet groups for the first time in a long time.
          This is old news way before PBC existed. The WBC is trying to create unified champs and IBF and WBA are hoping along with it while WBO wasn't part of talks. What haymon is djinn is creating a PBC belt for his fighters frown the toad. Spokes and oranges.

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          • techliam
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            #35
            Originally posted by BrushMyHair!
            Haymon wanted to have PBC Belts. The Idea of one champion. So pretty much the sanctioning bodies are doing kinda what Haymon wanted.
            Adding a PBC belt to the multiple array of belts already out there isnt the idea of 'one belt'

            Unifying the 4 major titles into one is

            The two scenarios are completely different

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            • techliam
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              #36
              Originally posted by Jc8804
              isnt that what a ring champ is??

              No more belts please..
              Id guess the 'premier' world champion would be the equivalent of an undisputed champion... the champ with all the belts

              The RING title barely matters anymore. It was originally a lineal system, but the rules for the RING title have drifted away now, its lost a lot of lustre. Heres some examples:

              Canelo-Trout was the for vacant RING title, yet a vacant lineage was established with Canelo-Floyd

              Garcia/Khan was for the RING title, yet Peterson was ranked higher than both Khan and Garcia. Garcia-Matthysse established the lineage at 140.

              Laughably, Floyd-Guerrero was for the vacant RING title. The May-Pac figjt established the universal lineage

              Hernandez-Cunningham 2 was for the RING title, but no lineage really existed at cruiserweight

              Vitali Klitshchko was the RING heavyweight champion even though hardly anyone recognised him as the clear no1. Theres tons of debate on this one, and this was way before the RING implemented their downfall.

              Im sure you get the idea

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                #37
                As many have pointed out, this has nothing to do with PBC and was discussed while the PBC was still effectively GBP.

                If this arrangement goes through between the sanctioning bodies, they will undoubtedly change the name to something else instead of "Premier."

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                  #38
                  The WBA, WBC, and IBF met twice in late 2013/early 2014 to talk about this. Nothing came out of it. WBO didn't want any part of it either. Isn't the WBO suing Haymon right now?

                  Funny to see the WBA involved in these discussions when they can't even unify their own organization. They just recently crowned an interim interim champion for christ's sake.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Pigeons
                    The WBA, WBC, and IBF met twice in late 2013/early 2014 to talk about this. Nothing came out of it. WBO didn't want any part of it either. Isn't the WBO suing Haymon right now?

                    Funny to see the WBA involved in these discussions when they can't even unify their own organization. They just recently crowned an interim interim champion for christ's sake.
                    The WBA didnt want to be left out. The WBA have discussed dropping regular champions numerous times, yet nothing seems to happen. For a while, it seemed that the WBA stopped promoting to super champion, keeping 1 champ per division (+interim), around the time Broner held the WBA 147 belt. The practice was short lived though. I hope they sanction the WBA super belt for Jones-Enzo so that Lebedev could take them to court.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by killakali
                      This is old news way before PBC existed. The WBC is trying to create unified champs and IBF and WBA are hoping along with it while WBO wasn't part of talks. What haymon is djinn is creating a PBC belt for his fighters frown the toad. Spokes and oranges.
                      Read the begining of the next paragraph: "The International Boxing passport, which will come into effect in mid 2011 ..."

                      Clearly, this is an old post from sometime before 2011.

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