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The fact of the matter is that you're reaching, quite embarrassingly, to make it out as if he's a quitter. It's cheap and nobody is falling for it. Everyone knows Pac doesn't argue, or throw fits in the ring, etc. It's in his nature to just go with what he's told. His behavior after the Bradley robbery is proof. You're just desperate to make him out as a quitter and you look ****** doing it.
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I'm not tryng to label him a quitter... Dudes a great warrior, but that night he didn't want t fight on...
Just pointing out the fact, that on that night, manny showed no passion or urgency when they called it off, and wanted to find an out..
You can make excuses for manny's behavior, but facts remain, when they were in the process of calling the fight,manny was ok with itComment
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No JMM outbrawled Pac 3 out of the 4 times they fought. Forget what the bs judges said.Comment
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It was much more a case of Morales' rapid decline than any progress of Pac's. He was still the same fighter, Morales wasn't.
People always seem to forget that directly after the first Pac fight, Morales got annihilated and absolutely embarrassed in a brutal shut out loss to Zahir Raheem, and was actually hurt numerous times in that fight...by Raheem. It was far and away the worst fight and loss of his entire career to that stage, and it only got worse as each fight happened. Morales was shot to ****, but so many people refuse to face it. His brief resurgence at 140 a few years later made people just how bad he was then.
Then in the second fight with Pac, it was going the same way as the first but Morales didn't have the legs anymore, didnt have the coordination, balance or snap. He also didn't have the punch resistance and was getting tagged much easier and much more cleanly, and being hurt worse, especially to the body.
I think it was a case of all the years of making weight badly, and of course the absolutely brutal wars he was in. Those last few years leading up to the Pac fight he was in war after war after war and took amazing amounts of punishment. From Barrera 3 to the Raheem loss, those fights alone were enough to destroy lesser men.
People try to make it seem like Pac suddenly became a monster literally in one fight. Went from wild man with no skill, easy to beat, to boxing machine with unbeatable skills. He didn't progress as far as Morales regressed. That's just obvious and people trying to downplay Morales' physical while trying to make it seem like Pac suddenly became the greatest thing ever in one fight are deluded.Last edited by BennyST; 11-01-2015, 12:16 AM.Comment
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Anyway, Morales did, until all his brawling caught up with him, and Marquez out brawled him in the 4th.
He also got out brawled in his two early KO losses. They were pretty wild affairs. An unrefined Pac (that Pac was unrefined, not the one that lost to Morales) getting caught by those two dudes.Comment
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gonna go watch this on youtube now! Great fight.Comment
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It was, but Pac obviously wanted it stopped. He was frustrated so badly and wanted out.
Sanchez was actually a really good fighter and that draw is always forgotten. Pac was lucky to go away with a draw because he was losing his **** in that fight. People completely overlook that fight, and it probably taught Pac a fair bit because he was getting beat in that fight by the scrappy, mauling tactics, which he was very good at, of Agapito. He fought everyone and was very experienced and had some very veteran (read dirty) tactics.Comment
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Another spot on post by BennyST. People like to say Manny Pacquiao beats great fighters in their primes but it is simply not true. Manny's best wins were against guys who were clearly on the slide. Even the opponents said so themselves. And in fact, Manny has a few clear losses on his resume to guys who were past their best.
Manny is a great fighter but nowhere near the fighter that the public has made him out to be over these past few years.Comment
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