Comments Thread For: Malik Scott Survives Knockdown, Outpoints Thompson

[Drunken Cat]

Football wasn't nearly as popular, not even close. It was just starting to get popular. Basketball didn't become huge until the 80s.

You're proving my point. All the poor kids with potential play other sports. Its the only chance moat have to get into college. The system is entirely designed to push these kids into football and basketball at incredibly young ages. Football and basketball have become massive American institutions in the last 25 years. Again, if you're denying that this is the biggest reason for boxing's decline in America, then you don't know what you're talking about. And if you try to argue that football and basketball were anywhere near as popular in the 60s and 70s as now, then you have absolutely no clue.

I never and would never deny that plenty of poor kids play football and basketball and excel at it.

Plenty of middle class kids do too. And plenty excel at the top level, particularly in basketball (football is indeed a bit rougher--but there are many middleclass kids who go far in football).

I explained pretty clearly my take on why boxing declined.

Your claim that it is because the best athletes were diverted to other sports is absolutely ludicrous.

It is because it fell out of favor with the public, as well as other reasons.

Boxing use to be a mainstream sport, it is now a fringe sport, and widely denounced as a bloodsport, among polite company.

You are just another typical jingoistic sports fan, grasping for excuses for why Emerrica can't produce a heavyweight champion of late.

I personally don't care where a fighter is from, I prefer to focus on how he fights.

[Drunken Cat]

I wouldn't call your reasoning "help" by any stretch of the imagination. In any case, to each his own. Believe what you like

It was just a colloquial phrase, brah. 'Beyond the help of.' Get it? Or is English not your first language or something?

[Drunken Cat]

Replies to various comments:

- A guy said it always entails fear or something to take a dive. There is also the reason for money. It is very plausible that when Wilder fought Scott, then the best opponent he had ever faced, that his team wanted to ensure that he won. Therefore paid Scott off. Just a possibility!

- A guy took a jibe at the dive scenario. I am not specifically claiming the Scott fight was a dive, only that it was definitely a strong possibility. MAybe it was legit! In which case as stated, this is a big tick in Wilder's column.

- I also thought that Thompson would win this one fairly comfortably.

- In response to the American's play football and basketball now: SIT YOUR ASS DOWN NUT BAG! Please read the post in the History section about HOFers in the last 15 years- "Nutbaggery defined"

I guess this is the one? How many fighters of the last 15-20 years can be considered ATG's/legends

Only one that comes up on that search, so must be it.

[doom_specialist]

It was just a colloquial phrase, brah. 'Beyond the help of.' Get it? Or is English not your first language or something?

English is my first language, which is why I know that I'd have to be from the region that the phrase comes from in order for me to get the colloquialism. Colloquialisms are inherently informal, and only used in familiar conversation. As such, the colloquial term or phrase might be mistaken for something else.

TL;DR "beyond the help of" isn't a colloquialism anywhere lol.

[Drunken Cat]

English is my first language, which is why I know that I'd have to be from the region that the phrase comes from in order for me to get the colloquialism. Colloquialisms are inherently informal, and only used in familiar conversation. As such, the colloquial term or phrase might be mistaken for something else.

TL;DR "beyond the help of" isn't a colloquialism anywhere lol.

I guess you don't understand sarcasm, either.

Colloguial as in not literal; as opposed to dialectical, as you misinterpret the meaning of the word.

My meaning was quite clear.

You are just seeking the last word.

[doom_specialist]

I guess you don't understand sarcasm, either.

Colloguial as in not literal; as opposed to dialectical, as you misinterpret the meaning of the word.

My meaning was quite clear.

You are just seeking the last word.

Except that "colloquial" does not mean "not literal." It means informal or not literary. I do hope that you don't think "literal" and "literary" have similar meanings, since you're on about me being the one misinterpreting words lol.

You could have picked up a dictionary, realized that "colloquial" doesn't mean what you think it does, and simply backed off, since you're apparently not looking for the last word.

[Drunken Cat]

Except that "colloquial" does not mean "not literal." It means informal or not literary. I do hope that you don't think "literal" and "literary" have similar meanings, since you're on about me being the one misinterpreting words lol.

You could have picked up a dictionary, realized that "colloquial" doesn't mean what you think it does, and simply backed off, since you're apparently not looking for the last word.

Shut the fuck up already. You are goddamn boring me (and surely everyone else here) by now.

[doom_specialist]

Shut the fuck up already. You are goddamn boring me (and surely everyone else here) by now.

Sorry you tried to have a semantics battle using a word that you didn't know the meaning of

[Drunken Cat]

Sorry you tried to have a semantics battle using a word that you didn't know the meaning of

I know the meanings fine. You derailed the thread because you were apparently too illiterate to understand a comment I made. Now it is time to shut up and move on.

[Strive 4 Truth]

An oft repeated and tiring myth. Kids do not say, hmm, should I be a hw champ or an nfl player? Nfl I guess. That isn't how it works. Find a new explanation.

Sad but true man, boxing has got guys who didnt make it in the Nfl or got injured. Getting punched in the face doesnt seem to appeal to most athletes these days. I coach high school wrestling and while the numbers have dropped in the last decade it also may have the same affect with boxing. Kids would rather play video games or fall into drugs then get involved in sports.