Comments Thread For: Roc Nation: This is Ward's First Step Toward Kovalev

[-Antonio-]

Kovalev knocks Ward out.

[Scipio2009]

Official number is 150, which is alright for your first Ppv vs opponent with little US TV exposure. For comparison Cottos first Ppv vs undefeated Paulie from Bk did 60k. Hopkins Dawson 40k. But if he's zero Ppv draw like you insist, then it makes your point even dumber, idiot.

Cotto's "first PPV" was a Top Rank PPV that competed directly against an HBO PPV (Cotto's show was only carried by one of the cable operators).

Why do you go to such extents to lie about somethings than anyone on this site can simply look up?

[Progrssive_Jedi]

Who does not want to see Crusher Smash Ward, WTF

Not one GGG fan wouldn't love to see Ward get hit by a guy his own size. A LHW calling up a MW ass begging for a fight.

We are laughing because you dumb sass Ward fans talk mad **** about GGG, and Ward tries to fight two bums from SMW, one he drags to 172, and then the other gets denied because it was too unfair.

Then the third s almost denied, but Nevada Com said **** it.

Ward is fighting a 38 year old Unranked SMW, dragging him up to 175, and he has 3 weeks to train.

FOR **** SAKES IF GGG DID THAT YOU BASTARDS WOULDNT STOP TALKING ABOUT IT UNTIL 2030.

So let's GET REAL.

THIS IS NOTHING SHORT OF PATHETIC.

As for him fighting crusher, I hope it happens.

But Ward has never stated he wanted it in public. His team are saying probably, and giving Wards history of making outrageous demands, I have no confidence in him doing it.

What tells me that, how about him still fight SMW, but at 175.

This fight does nothing to prepare him for Crusher.

His third Tune up, if he steps up and fights a top ten LHW, then he is making the move.

This was nothing more than an attempt to make him look good in front of a PPV crowd.

This guy is supposed to be the next P4P according to many of you.

Well you talked all that ****, NOW EAT THIS.

IN OUR HEART OF HEARTS, YOU KNOW DAMN WELL THIS IS A PATHETIC MATCH UP AND YOUR DOUBLE STANDARD IS AMAZING TO WATCH.

Never said he was the best! I did say he would make a top 5 GGG best list and I stick by that.

"never fought a top 50 opponent" ??? I'm pretty sure both him and Jack are ranked in the top 50...

"Coming up in weight" Again??? Aren't they BOTH coming up in weight? Do you need me to highlight both? If you're going to pick apart my comments you're fair game also...You get mad enough we can see who knows more about boxing when certain th$ngs back the talk up...

No, Ward hasn't fought SMW since Nov of 2013. He has already come up in his Smith fight, where he also dragged up a SMW.

[QUOTE=Shadoww702;16180403][QUOTE=Progrssive_Jedi;16180356]

This is a silly comment.

And GGG would still be favored over Dirrell. A lot has happened since then, mainly a new coach that has turned GGG into the monster we see today.

And you're probably right??? But since GGG has ONLY fought the equivalent of Dog Sht and/or Tomato cans covered in dogg sht! I have NO FREAKIN Idea how good or protected he really is? Sht he could be Adrien Broner @130 for all I know and when he moved up he was EXPOSED! Maybe Broner should get with GGG ppl and go down to super FW! I know it will be hard but if he fights 5-6 times a years and is always in training camp he can do it.

We have a good idea, the only guy anyone seriously thinks gives him trouble is a LHW.

For a hype job, he sure has one HOF scared and the oh so great Canelo spinning his wheels.

Not to worry, let me just have the typical Ward fan riposte right here

Ward doe.

So Ward is bad ass for challenging the smaller GGG.

But it's unfair for GGG to challenge Cotto who is the Lineal champ of his division?

so you're banking on ward being a coward to feel better about little g? knock yourself out. i remember people saying floyd was "forced" to fight pacquiao lol. now ward has been forced to fight kovalev. you know when ward beats kovalev hes the undisputed pound for pound king of boxing right..but you don't wanna see that you got fingers crossed hoping hes not a man of his word and chickens out. you got him confused with golovkin.

Wtf, that's silly. I want to see Ward fight someone his size and is ranked.

It's his fans relentless pursuit of denigrating GGG that gives me the satisfaction of throwing this pathetic fight right back in their faces.

They call GGG all kinds of things, but this is a low for someone of Wards skill.

Ward didn't deserve 50/50 ???
GGG (the PPV flop with 97k buys) was being generous ???

A loquacious post filled with nothing but raw indigestible sewage . The government must be aiming their CERN partical accelerator right above your house .

How many PPV draws Ward doing these days.

Damn, Ward couldn't sell out a Arena in his home state. LMAO

He called Ward out, Ward's fans wanted to entertain it.

He tried to make the Ward fight twice. Ward was busy, needed tune ups, and now wanted to make a fool or of himself.

I don't think that Golovkin fans want to see competitive fights in this sport. Not only do they openly root against Golovkin fighting a single opponent where he isn't a massive favorite, but now they are all over this thread, down on both knees, praying that Ward-Kovalev doesn't happen.

Sad bunch of "men".

No, this couldn't be revenge for the absurd attacks the Ward fans made on GGG.

Whatever makes you feel better.

Honestly, I could give a damn about Ward. I want him to fight crusher, they are the same size.

It's his fans **** talking only to have him do this, you bet, it gives me a lot of pleasure.

so golovkin fans didn't want him to fight ward. and now they're praying ward is just lying about facing kovalev. damn you cant please these guys.

Praying Ward lies. WTF are you talking about.

Why wouldn't we want Ward to face a guy his own size who can ****.

That has nothing to do with it.

For me, it's about giving them back what they've been giving.

Ward is making pathetic moves.

This was almost the second mismatch the Nevada Com almost wouldn't approve.

[Scipio2009]

What the fcuk, thirstiness? You mean he's a big SWW, hence the CW. If he was a blown up welter Floyd would want him at his comfortable weight and get proper credit, cause per Floyd CW wins don't count

Floyd fought Oscar at 154, no problem; Floyd fought Cotto at 154, no problem; if Alvarez had simply kept his mouth shut and simply negotiated the fight, I doubt the weight would've become an issue.

Same reason why, rather than negotiate the Cotto fight like a normal person, Alvarez ran his mouth about "reclaiming Mexican dates" that meant jack **** to Cotto and not only pushed off the bout by about a year, but also cost him a **** ton of money.

[HeroBando]

Cotto's "first PPV" was a Top Rank PPV that competed directly against an HBO PPV (Cotto's show was only carried by one of the cable operators).

Why do you go to such extents to lie about somethings than anyone on this site can simply look up?

Where's the lie, idiot?

[HeroBando]

Floyd fought Oscar at 154, no problem; Floyd fought Cotto at 154, no problem; if Alvarez had simply kept his mouth shut and simply negotiated the fight, I doubt the weight would've become an issue.

Same reason why, rather than negotiate the Cotto fight like a normal person, Alvarez ran his mouth about "reclaiming Mexican dates" that meant jack **** to Cotto and not only pushed off the bout by about a year, but also cost him a **** ton of money.

That's a new one, CW for ****talking. Well it was well played by Canelo, cause he can blame the debilitating weight clause ,and Floyd goes in the books as CW King of the decade

[SugarRaRobinson]

I wasn't planning on jumping in until I saw your last paragraph. I think Ward is a fantastic fighter and is obviously well-proven (#2 P4P when he was active).

I use to think you were trolling from most of your posts, but this clearly indicates you're not. You are one of the most biased posters here. I really don't know why you and many others here have a lifelong vendetta against Golovkin. He's never committed any crimes. He's never mocked his opponents. He's never showboated his wealth, fame, or belittled the community. He's not the one talking smack, from what I see it's mostly his team. He's an entertaining fighter who practically never clinches. He is a very skilled boxer, who KO's opponent after opponent. He's consistently fighting top 10 middleweight ranked opponents, and has 2 out of the 4 major belts. He's trying to become an undisputed champion, something not even Andre Ward has become at 168. And you know what? He's probably fought more top 10 opponents in his division than Ward has. Yes, Ward has been away for about 2 years, but he's also been a professional about 2 years longer than GGG. Is it GGG's fault there aren't many middleweights that are ranked similarly to Froch, for instance? No. Is it GGG's fault that there isn't a Super 6? No.

Yet, you and some other NSB posters still find ways to call him a coward, a bum, etc. You attribute anything that his team does to reflect on him as a person, despite him not actually doing anything wrong. You treat other boxers who call out fighters only to use their name differently, fighters that have more serious flaws whether in character or fighting methodology, better than GGG.

You're actually trying to pull the excuse that Canelo, a 25 year old who weighs 175 lbs, is a blown up JMW? What next, Mike Tyson was a blown up Cruiserweight? Canelo is 5'9" and holds very little fat. He's done a great job at going up in weight, but then again, he's just now entering his physical prime. Was JCC Jr. also fighting at the right weight classes all these years?



Right Larry, what's the excuse going to be now? "Amateur boxing doesn't count!"

I'm assuming we all know that Ward was a light heavyweight his final few years of amateur boxing? And do we still have ignorant people here on NSB saying Ward hasn't lost since he was 12-13?

I honestly feel like the majority of Ward "fanboys" aren't even really fans of him. They are just using him as a reason to hate on Golovkin. Again, I don't know why. He's a fun fighter to watch and doesn't do ****** things.

Firstly he has committed a crime (at least in the boxing world) . He personally stated he'd fight Ward and the infamous "Anyone from 154-168" statement . Then he pulled a bait and switch with the "164 for Ward only" . Furthermore we can't separate him from his team as I have personally never seen him redact or retract anything that comes from his camps mouth .

Yes he's entertaining , but he has clearly out grown his weight class and has already beaten the top two guys there , Murray and Lemu . Is it his fault that there's no one left to challenge him at 160 =No , but is it his fault that he chooses to stay there chasing a goal that's not worthy of his level of talent = Yes .

To me it seems that most of the people u call Ward fan boys are Ward fans , yes , but also enjoy viable matchups where even there favorite fighter is actually challenged . That's why most of us Ward fans wanted to see these two fight , because most , like myself , actually recognize gggs talent and feel BOTH fighters will be tested in ways they haven't in the past .

Same reason us Ward fans cheered Ward vs Kov , as we wanna see even our favorite fighter dangerously challenged . So much we can say for these hedging GGG fans who will snub a Ward fight simply to hedge and protect GGG . U have your priorities a bit mixed up and have clearly choose the wrong fan base to chastise .

[Scipio2009]

So, you're mad because you bought a line from the networks hyping up a fight?
I'll go ahead and tell you this right now: Cotto vs Canelo isn't going to be Hagler Hearns either. Save you some mental anguish lol

I didn't "buy" jack ****; once the sportsbook put the line at almost 20:1, everyone with any type of sense would've known that it was a **** fight.

No one is selling Cotto-Alvarez as Hagler-Hearns; it's an "old lion vs young lion" showdown, between two of the sport's biggest stars, featuring Andre Ward (the new p4p king) in Las Vegas.

Sportsbook currently has the fight at 3:1, so it's likely to actually be a fight for a while.

funny how people react differently to fights that are actually looking like fights.

[i'm a fun haver]

I didn't "buy" jack ****; once the sportsbook put the line at almost 20:1, everyone with any type of sense would've known that it was a **** fight.

No one is selling Cotto-Alvarez as Hagler-Hearns; it's an "old lion vs young lion" showdown, between two of the sport's biggest stars, featuring Andre Ward (the new p4p king) in Las Vegas.

Sportsbook currently has the fight at 3:1, so it's likely to actually be a fight for a while.

funny how people react differently to fights that are actually looking like fights.

lol holy ****

[Scipio2009]

I'm sure you'd sign that "deal" Ward sent because you're an idiot

Golovkin said no to the offer, proceeded to do 100k PPV buys, and is now looking at a situation where neither Cotto or Alvarez are angling to fight him, the WBC is ready to hand him another world title belt. and he's literally looking at no marketable fights.

50/50 on a Ward fight, that would actually capture the attention of the sports world, is now looking like a sweetheart deal.

Have fun with Golovkin-Johnson or Golovkin-Heiland on HBO for $1.5m, rather than a Ward fight for double that.