Waddell+Reed's PBC investment has lost 59% of it's value.

[The Big Dunn]

Reading this thread has been really sad. There are actually quality posters that base the quality of the fighters and which fights they will watch on who the fighters manager is and what network fights are on.

[RSBonos]

ponzi scheme

[IMDAZED]

Reading this thread has been really sad. There are actually quality posters that base the quality of the fighters and which fights they will watch on who the fighters manager is and what network fights are on.

Why should it make you sad? You haven't realized half these guys are either teens or adult losers?

[The Big Dunn]

Why should it make you sad? You haven't realized half these guys are either teens or adult losers?

Its sad because posters that in theory love the sport care more about which entity they get the sport from more than the sport itself. I can't imagine this happening in any other sport.

[Jubei]

In other news, I bought a house which cost me a significant amount of money and shredded my savings. I'll never get that money back. Even worse, I may have ruined the housing market.

You also work at burgerking and bought a multi story penthouse in Monaco?

[Eff Pandas]

Its sad because posters that in theory love the sport care more about which entity they get the sport from more than the sport itself. I can't imagine this happening in any other sport.

Boxing fans LOVE the status quo & hate change is a big part of the problem. They also love complaining. P4P boxing has the best complainers among all sports fans. Definitely in the top 3.

[The Big Dunn]

Boxing fans LOVE the status quo & hate change is a big part of the problem. They also love complaining. P4P boxing has the best complainers among all sports fans. Definitely in the top 3.

I guess so. It just doesn't make sense to me.

You can literally take a fight, put it on HBO, and if its good posters will call it a FOTY candidate. If the same fight is on PBC or Showtime, they wouldn't watch it and afterwards, talk about the ring entrance music, lack of ring card girls, and no entourage walking to the ring with the fighter as a reason why the fight ******.

[Eff Pandas]

Haymon helped Floyd, no doubt. But what other fighter has he made a star? None. In fact, his actions have ruined the star power potential of several of his fighters.

I think Haymon has made plenty of guys bigger. Or at least thats arguably the case cuz it all depends on what bigger or a star means as there seems to be numerous definitions & understandings with that ****.

Has he created the next Floyd? No. Thats a seldom done thing anyway. Has he moved guys into getting more attention &/or money? Certainly. Haymon gets guys paid more on cruise control. He gives a f#ck about the fighters in a business where thats seldom the case.

The thing people fail to realize is right now Haymon is probably using idk 60%-70% of the available US TV time for PBC fighters. And you can't build stars without TV time. So it stands to reason the major entity building stars will be PBC. And Haymon has more guys who are younger & up & coming guys among his roster than he's ever had. So ask me in 3 years at the stars PBC has built.

[Sugar Adam Ali]

It's over hahahahahaha You gimps can clutch at straws all day if you want. This dross isn't going to be around for another 3 years, believe that.

You gimp, can't even tell what we are talking about..

No one is saying its a success/failure... Just saying that their is no difference in the matchmaking between Pbc, and hbo/sho...

[elgranluchadore]

FOX pays UFC 100mi a year. How in hell PBC wasted 300mi on 6mo?

Unlike UFC, PBC is paying every channel to air their content, thats why you see them on every channel. They're hoping after paying them for a while they will be able to auction their content to the the highest bidder, this is assuming they get the ratings the networks desire which they haven't at all.

I mean yea i guess a network will eventually pay for PBC but not enough for them to turn a profit with the amount they pay guys like quillin.

PBC is just Haymon scamming his investors and getting more money for himself and his fighters, after he is done he can always go back to selling his stuff to Showtime/HBO.

The biggest failure of PBC has been their inability to create any stars at all, even with such a massive platform.