Which was more dissapointing? Floyds 389k ppv buys or GGG's 97k buys.

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  • El-blanco
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    #111
    Originally posted by JStill Unbiased
    Deevel and El Blanco have never ran a business so it's easy to see why they believe what they believe.
    You don't understand how a budget works. Just because I cleaned up on a few events doesn't mean I wouldn't be pissed and disappointed that I lost millions on another event. People have reactions to specific events. Our reactions are not just based on the overall picture, they can influence them, but we still isolate events. I'd' be much more pissed if I lost millions on a specific event rather than a million or so. It's pretty simple.

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    • JStill Unbiased
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      #112
      Originally posted by Sweet Pea 50
      Floyd's 389k buys

      ИATAS, badass316, boxinghead530, Cruisin', Deevel916, El-blanco, hectari, Helm, Jc8804, killakali, KillaMane26, Kuyukut, olliesmiff, Slip Stream, The Future

      my mans came with the Marlo gems ahahaha, priceless. So appropriate for these idiots.

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      • JStill Unbiased
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        #113
        Originally posted by El-blanco
        You don't understand how a budget works. Just because I cleaned up on a few events doesn't mean I wouldn't be pissed and disappointed that I lost millions on another event. People have reactions to specific events. Our reactions are not just based on the overall picture, they can influence them, but we still isolate events. I'd' be much more pissed if I lost millions on a specific event rather than a million or so. It's pretty simple.
        Let's say you have a garage sale my man, no disrespect, but that's how we'll break it down for the sake of discussion. Let's say you have a garage sale. You're projecting that you got about $15K worth of junk you got laying around the crib that you know you can do without. You want to have a blowout weekend sale. You want to do $7,500 on Saturday & $7,500 on Sunday. You end up doing $12K on Saturday & $3K on Sunday although you projected $7,500. Was your Sunday a "Flop"?

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        • El-blanco
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          #114
          Originally posted by JStill Unbiased
          Let's say you have a garage sale my man, no disrespect, but that's how we'll break it down for the sake of discussion. Let's say you have a garage sale. You're projecting that you got about $15K worth of junk you got laying around the crib that you know you can do without. You want to have a blowout weekend sale. You want to do $7,500 on Saturday & $7,500 on Sunday. You end up doing $12K on Saturday & $3K on Sunday although you projected $7,500. Was your Sunday a "Flop"?
          Terrible example because I only have 3k of merchandise remaining. The best I can possibly do is 3k. How and why would my projection still be $7500? Are you really this ******? That's the example you give after criticizing others? I know a lot of bars owners and they might make 10k on Saturday, but if they don't make their quota of 2k on Sunday, they are pissed and it's a flop. It doesn't matter what I did the night before. I'm still going to be disappointed I lost money on that day. You guys keep stating the obvious. Clearly the whole contract was a success but I'm still going to be upset if I lose money on any event.
          Last edited by El-blanco; 10-28-2015, 07:44 PM.

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          • Raonic
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            #115
            Floyd's by far. He's a PPV star. GGG had no footing in the PPV market at the time.

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            • DoktorSleepless
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              #116
              Originally posted by ИATAS
              ESPN, etc all say 150,000.
              They didn't. They just quoted Tom Loeffler. Even with quotes from HBO, HBO didn't confirm it directly like they usually would.
              Last edited by DoktorSleepless; 10-28-2015, 07:40 PM.

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              • icha
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                #117
                Originally posted by El-blanco
                You don't understand how a budget works. Just because I cleaned up on a few events doesn't mean I wouldn't be pissed and disappointed that I lost millions on another event. People have reactions to specific events. Our reactions are not just based on the overall picture, they can influence them, but we still isolate events. I'd' be much more pissed if I lost millions on a specific event rather than a million or so. It's pretty simple.
                showtime knew that floyd-berto wasnt about making money, they allowed floyd to pick his next opponent after the pac fight, even most floyd fans knew that fight wasnt worth as a PPV...
                floyd gave sho the pac and canelo fights, after that espinoza wasnt going to force floyd into a profitable fight ...

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                • TyrantT316
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                  #118
                  I don't think ANYBODY even Mayweather and his people expected the numbers to be high realistically. They are fully aware they came off of a mega fight that ultimately disappointed where people spent $100 bucks for and the majority of the public wouldn't be interested in spending another $70 for his farewell session vs a lackluster opponent. No one expected the numbers to realistically be high.

                  May-Pac was a cash out fight for both. They can care less about what happens afterwards. Their careers, legacies and bank accounts are set. They don't need to prove that anymore. The pressure is on Golovkin now. He needs to continue winning. Win impressively. Just be himself and play to the people a bit. Make big fights. Etc.

                  However, that does not mean GGG was a failure. This is just the start. David Lemi-(heck I can't even spell his last name) wasn't Arturo Gatti in terms of general popularity. He is a top MW with the belt, but wasn't a beloved fighter like Gatti.

                  Eventually Mayweather got his DLH. GGG needs his Cotto/Canelo.
                  Last edited by TyrantT316; 10-28-2015, 07:49 PM.

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                  • Syf
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                    #119
                    I'm not a Floyd fan by any means.. more of a ggg fan actually..but I tell it how I see it.

                    Imagine ppv performance as grades... one student just started out (ggg) and got an f on a quiz. Another student has been around for a long time and is actually the valedictorian... he fails that quiz too. Is the new student perceived as the bigger disappointment for failing his first quiz. .or is the valedictorian more of a disappointment because of the weight of perfection he has placed upon his own shoulders?

                    There are arguments for both.

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                    • TyrantT316
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                      #120
                      Originally posted by Syf
                      I'm not a Floyd fan by any means.. more of a ggg fan actually..but I tell it how I see it.

                      Imagine ppv performance as grades... one student just started out (ggg) and got an f on a quiz. Another student has been around for a long time and is actually the valedictorian... he fails that quiz too. Is the new student perceived as the bigger disappointment for failing his first quiz. .or is the valedictorian more of a disappointment because of the weight of perfection he has placed upon his own shoulders?

                      There are arguments for both.
                      I think the real question and issue is whether the valedictorian even planned to "pass" that quiz knowing he didn't really need to since he already graduated a long time ago.

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