Anybody else notice how Floyd vs. Pac has turned into Ward vs. GGG?

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  • Deevel916
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    #41
    Originally posted by The Big Dunn
    So did I. It seems that the very worst Floyd haters jumped off the Manny bandwagon and on to GGG's bandwagon. They use the same terms for Ward as they did Floyd.

    If NSB got rid of them like they did the Z clan, things would be much better.
    You're probably the worst one Dunn. You're anti anything not black. You should be the last one complaining about the Ward/GGG back and forth talk as you are the worst offender on the matter.

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    • Jc8804
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      #42
      Originally posted by Deevel916
      The mods should sticky a GGG/Ward thread and ban anyone who creates new threads. GGG and Ward fight 2 weightclasses apart and that fight is highly unlikely to happen.

      GGG/Canelo/Cotto talk is fine as GGG is the mandatory to the winner.
      Id agree. I asked the mods to make a
      GGG ward kovalev thread

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      • Eff Pandas
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        #43
        Originally posted by Deeznuts
        Black fans vs everybody else
        Its not even like all that. Thing is when a black guy voices a crazy opinion on a black fighter or against a white fighter its often seen by knuckleheads as "the black opinion" not some crazy mfers opinion. Apparently some knuckleheads think all black people are exactly the same &/or vote on what opinions to take publicly in private at some yearly black people convention held in secret in Detroit & are unified like the **********s once they take a stance. But when a white guy says something crazy he's just a crazy mfer & all white people have unique opinions & are like snowflakes.

        If there is a vs situation going on among boxing fans its the reasonable cats vs the f#cking knuckleheads.

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        • The Big Dunn
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          #44
          Originally posted by Deevel916
          You're probably the worst one Dunn. You're anti anything not black. You should be the last one complaining about the Ward/GGG back and forth talk as you are the worst offender on the matter.
          Why, because I am not a fan of Manny, GGG or Kov? are they the only 3 non black boxers in the world. Does it matter that I like Danny Garcia and Leo Santa Cruz? Does it matter that I do not like Wilder and Garry Russell?

          This from the guy that complained about posters "playing the race card" and then followed that by posting the #1 reason people do not like GGG is because he is white.

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            #45
            Originally posted by The Big Dunn
            Why, because I am not a fan of Manny, GGG or Kov? are they the only 3 non black boxers in the world. Does it matter that I like Danny Garcia and Leo Santa Cruz? Does it matter that I do not like Wilder and Garry Russell?

            This from the guy that complained about posters "playing the race card" and then followed that by posting the #1 reason people do not like GGG is because he is white.
            Well when you look and see that almost every poster criticizing GGG is known for being a "pro black everything", then my statement has some validity.

            Me on the other hand am a fan of styles. Not race. All my favorites are of all different nationalities.

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              #46
              lol all of a sudden blacks have become the biggest oppressors around here wtf is going on? after seeing crack head, chicken, g@y, child support, Kool-Aid, thug, etc thrown around daily for NO REASON for the longest I just think that some of us get tired of it and the minute we have an opinion about how all these blk fighters are held to all these high standards, need to fight better opponents, nothing they do is enough, clinch too much, are cowards etc we are black panthers and only support black fighters??? smh come on yall need to grow the hell up. when we are killing eachother its called out, when we support eachother its called out lol its a no win situation!!!!! yeah some brothers do go too far but u all need to STFU and stop btch!ng!!! nothing wrong with supporting your race it happens all the time just keep it respectful and balanced!

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                #47
                Originally posted by Deevel916
                Well when you look and see that almost every poster criticizing GGG is known for being a "pro black everything", then my statement has some validity.

                Me on the other hand am a fan of styles. Not race. All my favorites are of all different nationalities.
                That statement doesn't have any validity.

                So what is your problem if GGG gets criticized? is it some rule that posters are not allowed to discuss GGG's lies, inconsistencies, and weak resume because he has a style you like?

                the real problem is you and all the other "fans of all styles and nationalities" either say nothing when they see things about Ward that are clearly racist or use some of the same BS logic and coded language and then get all mad when I or someone else points this out.

                The same terms are used to describe Ward, Floyd, Broner, haymon, Wilder and coming soon Crawford. They have NOTHING in common either in the ring or out of it except skin color.

                As for me, you have seen NOTHING from me critical of GGG's skills, talents, style, or anything in the ring.
                Last edited by The Big Dunn; 10-26-2015, 09:43 AM.

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                • Deevel916
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by The Big Dunn
                  That statement doesn't have any validity.

                  So what is your problem if GGG gets criticized? is it some rule that you we are not allowed to discuss GGG's lies, inconsistencies, and weak resume because he has a style you like?

                  the real problem is you and all the other "fans of all styles and nationalities" either say nothing when they see things about Ward that are clearly racist or use some of the same BS logic and coded language and then get all mad when I or someone else points this out.

                  The same terms are used to describe Ward, Floyd, Broner, haymon, Wilder and coming soon Crawford. They have NOTHING in common either in the ring or out of it except skin color.

                  As for me, you have seen NOTHING from me critical of GGG's skills, talents, style, or anything in the ring.
                  I dont care if a fighter is criticized. I'm just pointing out that 95% of the criticism is coming from notoriously pro black posters here.

                  What terms are used to describe Ward, Floyd, Broner, Haymon, Wilder? Maybe you're one of those that goes above and beyond to look for racism because I dont see it. Sure you make have the occasional rogue racist who just hates blacks but I dont see this influx of comments you speak of. Especially for Wilder and Crawford. Both seem very liked and the only criticism I see towards Wilder is his apparent ducking of Povetkin.

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by The Big Dunn
                    Why, because I am not a fan of Manny, GGG or Kov? are they the only 3 non black boxers in the world. Does it matter that I like Danny Garcia and Leo Santa Cruz? Does it matter that I do not like Wilder and Garry Russell?

                    This from the guy that complained about posters "playing the race card" and then followed that by posting the #1 reason people do not like GGG is because he is white.
                    Dear Dunn...

                    ... your real "issue" is elsewhere.

                    ... The Ring P4P top 10 is rating only 2 U.S. fighters: Ward at #2 and Crawford at #7... For instance, I like Crawford a lot (he who is rated only at #2 at his division by The Ring, after Postol)... But I don't like Ward (and, in fact, The Ring doesn't even rank him in the Top 10 at SMW or LHW).

                    ... The Ring P4P top 10 also include some 2 other "black" fighters: Rigondeaux at #5 and Brook at #10 -- whom I like both...

                    ... Both Garcia and LSG are U.S. fighters and they are not rated by The Ring neither in the P4P Top 10, nor as #1 in their own divisions...

                    ... Now, dear Dunn, please tell me is there any U.S. fighter who is ranked by The Ring as #1 in ANY division? The answer would tell you what your "issue" actually is about, right?...

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Cinci Champ
                      in a way it has but thats how it will always be when 2 good fighters that good in their primes are so close in weight and the fight is possible. I mean imo its the best possible fight boxing can make better then kovolav stevenson or any other fight imo its the fight that has to happen and i think it would be huge those 2 together are dynamite it would get mainstream attention and everything else the problem is team ggg and hbo are thinking about how much return they would get on their investment if ward schools but unfortunately i dont think it will. by the sounds of it ggg fans dont want the fight which surprises me but that will happen as long as boxing is around the same thing happened with james toney and roy jones when they fought it was 160 vs 168 and roy took on the challenge.
                      I agree, this is how boxing is and will always be. If you have two great fighters in the same era, until they settle that dispute in the ring, their respective fans will have pretty tender ****s about the matter....

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