Whats ruining Boxing and what keeps it afloat?

[Joe Beamish]

Ruining or limiting the greatness and popularity of boxing:
-- Lack of single championships per weight class
-- Lack of meaningful "champions"
-- Lack of "weight classes" in any meaningful sense
-- In short, no accountability. Minimal oversight.
-- Lack of same day weigh-ins
-- Death of the great american heavyweight, or even a few decent HW's
-- Rise of MMA
-- The increased popularity of many other sports; more choices
-- More forms of entertainment than ever before
-- PPV, which limits the expansion into a broader audience

Keeping it afloat
-- Truly unique, appealing personalities: Floyd, Pacquaio, Golovkin
-- The boxing community, gyms, culture of helping people, respect
-- Great knockouts and skills

Truly becoming a niche sport.

[Sugar Adam Ali]

Bad decisions/judging/refs

Cherrypick, protective matchmaking

Too many belts

Too many inactive fighters

****** rankings that make no sense

[Deevel916]

Politics, lack of regulation and structure, and the occasional bad matchup have been around for years and never caused me to get upset with the sport. You yourself got into the sport with these things as well. Didn't turn you away.

What is different is the new boxing fan like you and others. Failure to support the sport as a whole and not just those at the top exacerbates the other problems.

"Its always been this way therefore lets just accept it and continue to tune in."

Its people like yourself that help encourage what's ruining the sport. The no life having boxing fan that just tunes in to any crap they feed us and act as if we're suppose to be grateful for it.

[Jc8804]

No that isn't what is wrong with boxing.

The a side. b side stuff has been around for ages. B sides just accepted things and fought. My opinion of who is the top p4p fighter surely doesn't hurt the sport you clown.

The fans ultimately hurt the sport more than anything else. I see you and others mention UFC. UFC fans seem to watch whenever the sport is on. I'm not in any UFC forums-but I doubt they brag about not watching fights and fighters.

There have always been bad scores. Boxing has worked its way through it since more often than not, the judges get it right.

Network deals hurt the sport-they used to increase the number of possible opponents. Now it restricts the number of opponents.

Promoters/Managers stealing money huts the sport. Potential great fighters see Tyson getting $100 mil stolen, see Bob stealing from Floyd/Manny and then they go into other sports.

Lack of an organized body hurts the sport as well. Fights need to get made. but young fans over exaggerating how easy they are made or how often great fights happened doesn't help. If you love the sport, you enjoy it, not just it when the best names are performing.

Yet I never typed ufc???

Guys like you only root for one skin color.
Guys like you make assumptions. I watch any type of boxing lowest level to highest level. I attend pro cards and am cards live
At least 12 times a yr. I watch boxing over the NFL .. Your the clown


Moving on ..... Boxing needs all refs to be on the same page. Clinching is taken to far and
Fans hate it. It says in the rule book its not allowed. IMO ring size for certain weight classes as well. No reason for 147 pound fight to be held in custom 26x26 rings. Put those little guys in a 20x20

[The Big Dunn]

"Its always been this way therefore lets just accept it and continue to tune in."

Its people like yourself that help encourage what's ruining the sport. The no life having boxing fan that just tunes in to any crap they feed us and act as if we're suppose to be grateful for it.

Changing what I wrote is weak.

Watching the sport doesn't hurt the sport. No, you do not have to accept anything. But since I watch a lot of boxing on TV, I know that while there have been weak major cards, there have been strong minor cards that I enjoyed despite the fact they got low ratings overall.

Its like voting. You can't complain if you don't vote. Worse, if you vote in every presidential election but don't vote in the smaller ones. You screw yourself because smart people know the local elections have much more of an affect on you and your daily life than the presidential election.

guys like you support mismatches like Canelo/Kirkland and Kov/Mohammedi fights and wonder why we get so many similar easy fights for stars. Yet you don't watch Fonfara/Cleverly because it came on Friday on Spike, or Huck/Glowacki because it was PBC.

Your actions do far more damage than my words.

[Joe Beamish]

Oh, I think the inability of boxing to force a matchup between Floyd and Pacquaio, even though everybody was talking about it, hurt the sport greatly.

Five years of waiting? They should have had a trilogy by then. By the time the two met, neither was at his peak -- and Pacquaio was far from dedicated to the sport.

Not good for boxing.

[Afra]

Lot of money, fixing and drugs can ruin it, but on the other hand such things and players and loyal fans keep it live with full energies.

[The Big Dunn]

Yet I never typed ufc???

Guys like you only root for one skin color.
Guys like you make assumptions. I watch any type of boxing lowest level to highest level. I attend pro cards and am cards live
At least 12 times a yr. I watch boxing over the NFL .. Your the clown


Moving on ..... Boxing needs all refs to be on the same page. Clinching is taken to far and
Fans hate it. It says in the rule book its not allowed. IMO ring size for certain weight classes as well. No reason for 147 pound fight to be held in custom 26x26 rings. Put those little guys in a 20x20

Your posts don't show that you are a fan. Mostly you post about something racial. But if you support fights and are a real fan then I apologize for lumping you in with non fans.

don't put your biases on me. I root for all different races and nationalities of boxers.

What fight had a 26x26 ring? I know in vegas rings are 20x20 for all major fights, unless its in a small local casino ballroom that can't hold a ring that size.

[Ham Porter]

We disagree. Just because they are not the specific fights you want doesn't make them bad matchups. There is more to the sport than the top "1%". You can have good fights without big names.

This month has seen some very good fights, Postol/Matthysse, Gonzalez/Villoria, Fonfara/cleverly, huck/glowacki. we've also had some good upsets too.

Only you're disagreeing; literally everyone else recognises boxing is in a **** state right now, but you won't acknowledge it because you interpret such criticism as being totally directed towards Haymon & Haymon only. You're the worst kind of bumsniff.

[The Big Dunn]

Only you're disagreeing; literally everyone else recognises boxing is in a **** state right now, but you won't acknowledge it because you interpret such criticism as being totally directed towards Haymon & Haymon only. You're the worst kind of bumsniff.

everyone agrees with what? I only disagree on what the problems are, not on the state of the sport. we also disagree that there has been a string of bad matchups. This thread isn't about Haymon so why you brought him up seems silly.

Watch more of the sport outside the top, you might enjoy it.