Comments Thread For: WBC: No Voluntary, Cotto-Canelo Victor Must Face GGG

[Butt stuff]

It's staggering how much people don't want the eventual lineal/WBC champ to defend at the full weight or against proper middleweights. To the point it's turning into smear campaigns and misdirection.

It seems pretty clear cut to me. Not sure why any other previous/potential future fights are relevant.

Sack up & defend your title or vacate. Boxing has gotten really weird these days...

[MDPopescu]

Thank you. I am glad to hear this.

Doug Fisher:
"If Cotto barely beats Canelo in a good fight or he wins in controversial fashion, an immediate rematch between the two is likely. I can’t speak for the Board or the Panel, but my guess is that they would be OK with continuing to recognize Cotto as THE RING champ until he settles matters with Canelo.

Everything I just said about Cotto also applies to Canelo if he wins on Nov. 21. But we’re getting ahead of ourselves (as boxing folks tend to do). We should allow Cotto-Canelo to take place before we jump to conclusions and assume that either man is going to avoid GGG.

I agree that Golovkin is “the man” of the 160-pound division, but the only way for him to prove that he’s the undisputed champ is to collect all of the major titles. If he can’t get his hands on the WBC and RING belts right away, he can go after the WBO strap that will be held by the winner of Andy Lee-Billy Joe Saunders."


In other words: all Cotto and Canelo have to do is not to KO each other and conclude their fight with a close decision on the scorecards. Then go for a rematch, and so on...

[IMDAZED]

Doug Fisher:
"If Cotto barely beats Canelo in a good fight or he wins in controversial fashion, an immediate rematch between the two is likely. I can’t speak for the Board or the Panel, but my guess is that they would be OK with continuing to recognize Cotto as THE RING champ until he settles matters with Canelo.

Everything I just said about Cotto also applies to Canelo if he wins on Nov. 21. But we’re getting ahead of ourselves (as boxing folks tend to do). We should allow Cotto-Canelo to take place before we jump to conclusions and assume that either man is going to avoid GGG.

I agree that Golovkin is “the man” of the 160-pound division, but the only way for him to prove that he’s the undisputed champ is to collect all of the major titles. If he can’t get his hands on the WBC and RING belts right away, he can go after the WBO strap that will be held by the winner of Andy Lee-Billy Joe Saunders."


In other words: all Cotto and Canelo have to do is not to KO each other and conclude their fight with a close decision on the scorecards. Then go for a rematch, and so on...

The bolded implies you think the fight might be fixed. Nonsense, of course. And so with that in mind, of course there should be a rematch if the fight is close. Logic dictates that so this really isn't some surprise or big mystery.

[The plunger man]

Golovkin will NEVER get any credit if Cotto is stripped.

He will still be a paper champ.

Real champions win in the ring.

If Golovkin is too scared to give little Cotto a catchweight, then true boxing fans will always regard Cotto as the real champ

Cotto > Golovkin.

What on gods name are you talking about lol.....most kwolegeable fans consider golovkin the best middleweight in the world anyway and if he is considered in the top 3 p4p how can cotto be above him mongo if cotto refuses to fight him at the middleweight 160lb or below..your argument is mute and childish...look enough talking about this rubbish at the end of day cotto's days are numbered as the WBC champion and if refuses to fight golovkin then he gets stripped for not fighting a middleweight catchweight or no catchweight he will not survive against golovkin...and that's just the way the cookie crumbles

[MDPopescu]

I don't find necessary for Cotto to fight Golovkin -- on the size difference only.

But I think that GGG would agree on a catchweight (157?) in case Cotto agrees on a closer purse split.

... But I still don't find the Cotto-Golovkin fight as necessary...

[aboutfkntime]

I feel like your trying to set a trap

Correct, and it worked.

And..... you saved me from having to ask you the last question by admitting that you support catchweights.

No post history searching for me.

I know you said that you were tired but you must have seen that coming.

Do you think that Golovkin can beat Cotto/Canelo at 156 ?

I do

So.....

1) you know that Golovkin can beat Cotto at 156

2) you know that lil Cotto weighs 153

3) you know that Golovkin has used a catchweight

and lastly.....

4) you have no problem with catchweights.....

I truly don't mind CW if it's two people from two divisions

Well, that sounds more than just a little hypocritical..... much more in fact.

That actually sounds like a Category 5 flip-flop of epic proportions !!

The reasoning behind a catchweight is to manufacture/enable a fair fight..... and yet not only do you insist that little 153lb Cotto should fight a middleweight beast at 160, you openly admit that you support catchweights.

I find you guilty of performing a gigantic fanboy flip-flip in public my friend.

I sentence you to stand outside in the cold for 30 minutes WITHOUT wearing your Golovkin slippers..... no posting on Golovkin threads for a whole week..... and you have to issue a public apology to Cotto, to me, and to the entire sport of boxing in general.

You are in disgrace !!

Shame on you !!!

[aboutfkntime]

1.Golovkin
2.Golovkin
3.Kovalev vs Ward because Ward didn't run away to Al Haymon and this fight is actually possible.
I got Kovalev winning that fight because Ward doesn't have anything for him.

Fair call, and good point..... lets take what we can, as soon as we can get it.

Yea good point, scratch that poll.

In general, do you accept catchweights ?

[aboutfkntime]

you want Golovkin , the number one contender at 160 , to give a catchweight to the lineal champion at 160 ? what kind of joke is this ?

I want Golovkin to attempt to live up to his fanboy hype and actually fight a world-class opponent instead of making childish excuses.....

..... and considering the fact that Cotto weighs 153, and also considering the fact that only yesterday Golovkin stated that he can make 154..... a catchweight request from a legend who is close to retirement should NOT kill that fight.

Refusing a catchweight knowing that Cotto will be stripped would make Golovkin look like a paper champ who took the easy way out.....

..... especially considering the fact that Golovkin would get paid 0 despite using money to " avoid " Ward and Lara.

Why doesn't Golovkin just sack up and fight ?

Do you think that Golovkin can beat Cotto at 156 ?

[aboutfkntime]

I don't find necessary for Cotto to fight Golovkin -- on the size difference only.

But I think that GGG would agree on a catchweight (157?) in case Cotto agrees on a closer purse split.

... But I still don't find the Cotto-Golovkin fight as necessary...

I totally agree..... but I also have no problem with that fight.

Its up to Cotto.

Fcuk the titles and all that rubbish.

Only Golovkin and the Golovkids seem to be worried about that.

A fair fight is all I want, winner takes everything that they agree to put on the table.

If GGG can make 154, then a 156/157 cw request should not kill that fight.

Golovkin will lose respect if he kills that fight by refusing a catchweight, knowing that Cotto will be stripped.

[aboutfkntime]

If GGG can make 154, then a 156/157 cw request should not kill that fight.

It really sounds like very few of you actually want to see that fight.

Do you think that Golovkin can beat Cotto/Canelo at 156 ?