Gennady Golovkin vs David Lemiuex Does Roughly 150,000 PPV Buys

[STAX ON DECK]

The problem is that GGG has real business to take care of at middleweight. What is there about that you Ward nut suckers cannot understand? Once Golovkin has unified the division and HE decides to move up, THEN the fight can happen. Maybe it would be nice if in the meantime Ward had a couple of fights against, oh, I don't know... REAL ****ING FIGHTERS WHO ARE RANKED IN THE TOP 10 instead of hired punching bags. Maybe Ward can do his part to actually get his face out there on something other than a milk carton?

Bunch of fools.

u aint gonna back down on our bet, are ya??

[kafkod]

Give it up homie. The whole unification nonsense was only relevant if GGG proved to be a big enough draw to at least command respect at the negotiation table. If these numbers are accurate, he is a 100% B-side with Cotto or Nelo. Not to mention the stuff Team GGG pulled with the 164 catchweight for Ward. There's gonna be very little public sympathy for GGG if Cotto or Nelo ****s him in negotiations. He'll get some f4om his diehard fans. But quite frankly, its not enough of yall to really make a difference.

http://www.boxingscene.com/wbc-no-vo...ace-ggg--97190

Mandatory defence > Catchweight demand

Sold out MSG + HBO PPV + Canadian PPV + European and Asian TV viewers > 10 tossers on an internet forum

[Eff Pandas]

If you call being realistic as negative, then I guess it is.

Nail in the coffin for 1M buys is realistic???? lol. Although honestly I'd expect many boxing fans to somehow glass half empty Oprah giving them a free car with taxes paid.

Give me a realistic matchup that you think can potentially make 1M. Because I just don't see it anymore! Those days are gone, and Mayweather and Pacquiao are on their way out to make matters worse. There are no mainstream stars outside of those 2.

I think Canelo vs GGG will do 1M buys, despite these current GGG numbers (remember Floyd's best PPV numbers previous to Oscar were 300k-ish). I think there is a very good chance Canelo vs Cotto does 1M buys.

I think Canelo is going to be "the PPV guy". And the next PPV guys will be the guys who can parlay wins or close fights vs Canelo into their own PPV career much like Oscar's PPV career went more than likely.

PPV guys tend to begot PPV guys. Tyson/Holyfield/Lewis, Oscar/Manny/Floyd. Who's gonna bounce from Canelo is anyones guess. I mean who was thinking Floyd was gonna be the biggest PPV guy in history or even a top PPV guy in 2004, 2005? Hell you could argue he would never have a PPV career in 2004. Then he has his first PPV in 2005. Then he breaks the PPV record in 2007. Breaks it again in 2012. Shatters it in 2015. Just cuz you don't know who its going to be don't mean he isn't there.

Pacquiao vs. Matthysse was not going to be a 1M PPV fight either. There's no one Mayweather can fight and do 1M too either (minus maybe GGG). Sure, things in boxing can sometimes change quickly. But not that quickly! Crawford vs Postal is a cool fight, but neither is going to transcend the other. Crawford vs. Pacquiao could transcend Crawford if he wins. But I just don't see him being that next 1M PPV star overnight. It's just my opinion that those days are gone, or at least gone for a long time.

I never said Manny vs Lucas was gonna do 1M buys.

Floyd is retired. But if Floyd came back he does 1M+ buys in rematches vs Manny, Canelo & maybe Cotto (as long as he doesn't get destroyed by Canelo, which I think could happen). Zero doubt in my mind. I'd bet all my points on that in a second to anyone dumb enough to take that bet.

I'm with you on Crawford. I think he's one of the more overrated "next big things on the edge of super stardom" in boxing right now.

[Barcham]

Give it up homie. The whole unification nonsense was only relevant if GGG proved to be a big enough draw to at least command respect at the negotiation table. If these numbers are accurate, he is a 100% B-side with Cotto or Nelo. Not to mention the stuff Team GGG pulled with the 164 catchweight for Ward. There's gonna be very little public sympathy for GGG if Cotto or Nelo ****s him in negotiations. He'll get some f4om his diehard fans. But quite frankly, its not enough of yall to really make a difference.

Just by mentioning the 164 catchweight which was never an offer of any kind made to Ward, you have exposed your self as a total @sshole who DKSAB.

Do not bother replying to this, you are now part of the ignoramus brigade.

[carloscruz10009]

The problem is that GGG has real business to take care of at middleweight. What is there about that you Ward nut suckers cannot understand? Once Golovkin has unified the division and HE decides to move up, THEN the fight can happen. Maybe it would be nice if in the meantime Ward had a couple of fights against, oh, I don't know... REAL ****ING FIGHTERS WHO ARE RANKED IN THE TOP 10 instead of hired punching bags. Maybe Ward can do his part to actually get his face out there on something other than a milk carton?

Bunch of fools.

What "real business" does GGG have at middleweight? He's already the universally recognized best middleweight on the planet. Beating a couple C level bums and jr middleweights for belts nobody.....well, only 150K people care about doesn't mean a whole lot.

As for Ward, he's obviously done something right. Because Ward-GGG is the most talked about fight in the hardcore fight community. And judging by these numbers. There's a helluva lot more people interested in Ward-GGG than there are folks interested in GGG's "real business" at middleweight, as you called it.

[-Kev-]

Barcham and others were saying 200k would be good, I thought that was very low standard. But there you have it, it didn't even reach that low standard. Goes to show, as many fans that hype up GGG and some exposure with the Apple commerical and Donald Trump, no one was buying that mismatch. You can't sell showcase fights on PPV unless the guy is already an established PPV star. For your first HBO PPV headline, it should be against a good b-side that people believe can win, no one outside of GGG fans were saying "Lemiuex can win" and they did not even believe that. Basically two showcase fights with top 5 P4P fighters fighting. You got the false #1 P4P guy that nobody knows, then you got the guy who won't step up. Terrible move to make this PPV. If it was just televised on HBO it would have done great viewership.

[carloscruz10009]

Just by mentioning the 164 catchweight which was never an offer of any kind made to Ward, you have exposed your self as a total @sshole who DKSAB.

Do not bother replying to this, you are now part of the ignoramus brigade.

Actually you're probably the biggest laughing stock on this forum. I'm just having fun laughing at you tryand spin this.

[kafkod]

Just by mentioning the 164 catchweight which was never an offer of any kind made to Ward, you have exposed your self as a total @sshole who DKSAB.

Do not bother replying to this, you are now part of the ignoramus brigade.

Don't put the SOG and Cotto disciples on ignore. Dealing with them is fun. Like swatting flies without having to worry about any of that Bhuddist bad karma ****.

[kafkod]

What "real business" does GGG have at middleweight? He's already the universally recognized best middleweight on the planet. Beating a couple C level bums and jr middleweights for belts nobody.....well, only 150K people care about doesn't mean a whole lot.

As for Ward, he's obviously done something right. Because Ward-GGG is the most talked about fight in the hardcore fight community. And judging by these numbers. There's a helluva lot more people interested in Ward-GGG than there are folks interested in GGG's "real business" at middleweight, as you called it.

GGG vs Cotto or Canelo would do a hell of a lot more than 150k on PPV.

And a hell of a lot more than GGG vs Ward too.

[carloscruz10009]

Don't put the SOG and Cotto disciples on ignore. Dealing with them is fun. Like swatting flies without having to worry about any of that Bhuddist bad karma ****.

You do realize that you and the rest of the GGG fanboys are laughing stocks around here don't you. And this PPV flop makes it even better.