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  • Raonic
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    #71
    Originally posted by Scipio2009
    There's too much money on the table for the principals [Cotto, Alvarez, Golden Boy, Roc Nation, WBC, MGM International] for their not to be a Cotto-Canelo 2, likely opening up the new AEG Arena come the late Spring/early summer.

    Why folks insist on ignoring that reality is beyond me.
    Why would there be a #2 if it's not needed? And really GGG-Canelo would do more.

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    • Scipio2009
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      #72
      Originally posted by juandabomb
      if everything goes according to plan you will see triple g fight:
      johnson in early feb
      JS Heiland in may
      lee in august/early sept
      mandatory defense dec
      fixed for you

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      • KTFO
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        #73
        This isn't the best play for team GGG. If they want to unify and force the mandatory to the WBC like they have been saying, why not wait? WBC just announced Canelo/Cotto winner has 15 days after their fight, that's 6 weeks from now and he just fought 3 days ago. How the hell can the WBC force this mandatory while GGG is satisfying his own mandatory? This has a chance to open the back door for the Canelo/Cotto winner...

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        • Scipio2009
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          #74
          Originally posted by Raonic
          Why would there be a #2 if it's not needed? And really GGG-Canelo would do more.
          Same reason why Kovalev-Pascal 2 is happening early 2016; Duva isn't going to ever step up and take the Stevenson fight (if HBO doesn't get the fight at a discount), Duva has no other possible fighters who would make for a compelling alternative fight, and having the fight again gives Kovalev another opportunity to get a taste of that Canadian PPV money.

          Cotto-Alvarez, based on simple projection of the magnitude of the fight (US PPV, large TV rights interest from US/Mexico/UK/Japan among other markets, Las Vegas ponying up a pretty penny to host the fight, the overhyped Mexico-Puerto Rico rivalry, Jay-Z/Ward/RocNation helping to pike the urban/casual sports audience, both fighter being draws in their own right, etc) is figuring to be a fight that brings in north of $100m in total revenues.

          As long as neither guy gets blown out in three rounds, you run the fight again (with a lot of the positives related to the first bout, while also now being able to add the national holiday arc to the mix). First fight ends in some kind of controversy (split decision on the fight, ref error, incidental foul that affects the fight, a fighter wilting down the stretch due to a bad camp, etc) and you're looking at the rematch doing another $100m in total revenue or more.

          K2 has yet to release the live gate for Golovkin-Lemeiux and the DirectTV initial numbers are due anytime now (from where the projection for the full PPV generally comes from).

          Golovkin versus either guy (sans knocking off an actual name fighter) like does $50m in total business, though likely significantly less.

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            #75
            Originally posted by juandabomb
            no fighters under the Al haymon fighter protection program will fight GGG.
            This was a really good one -- se non è vero, è ben trovato...

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            • Real Talk85
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              #76
              Originally posted by AKAcronym
              Well they didn't. Golovkin-170, Lemieux-175. Doesn't matter what the eyes thought they saw.
              Bull****, he dwarfed him. Lemuix was flat out scrawny, he looked smaller than Curtis Stevens.

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                #77
                Originally posted by Real Talk85
                Bull****, he dwarfed him. Lemuix was flat out scrawny, he looked smaller than Curtis Stevens.
                It's not bull****. Not up to you to believe it or not. That's the weights.

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                • SlySlickSmooth
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                  #78
                  He has the WBC's word that he's the mandatory and the next fight regardless. Even if Cotto/Canelo ends in a draw, that doesn't change anything. Cotto-Canelo needed a step-aside deal with Golovkin in order for them to fight that dictates no matter the result, GGG is next.

                  GGG can take fights in between and even then this is a #1 guy giving everybody a chance in the division to beat him, it's not like he fights twice a year.

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                  • Raonic
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                    #79
                    Originally posted by Scipio2009
                    Same reason why Kovalev-Pascal 2 is happening early 2016; Duva isn't going to ever step up and take the Stevenson fight (if HBO doesn't get the fight at a discount), Duva has no other possible fighters who would make for a compelling alternative fight, and having the fight again gives Kovalev another opportunity to get a taste of that Canadian PPV money.

                    Cotto-Alvarez, based on simple projection of the magnitude of the fight (US PPV, large TV rights interest from US/Mexico/UK/Japan among other markets, Las Vegas ponying up a pretty penny to host the fight, the overhyped Mexico-Puerto Rico rivalry, Jay-Z/Ward/RocNation helping to pike the urban/casual sports audience, both fighter being draws in their own right, etc) is figuring to be a fight that brings in north of $100m in total revenues.

                    As long as neither guy gets blown out in three rounds, you run the fight again (with a lot of the positives related to the first bout, while also now being able to add the national holiday arc to the mix). First fight ends in some kind of controversy (split decision on the fight, ref error, incidental foul that affects the fight, a fighter wilting down the stretch due to a bad camp, etc) and you're looking at the rematch doing another $100m in total revenue or more.

                    K2 has yet to release the live gate for Golovkin-Lemeiux and the DirectTV initial numbers are due anytime now (from where the projection for the full PPV generally comes from).

                    Golovkin versus either guy (sans knocking off an actual name fighter) like does $50m in total business, though likely significantly less.
                    Cotto and Canelo aren't as big of crooks as Duva though.

                    GGG-Canelo is much more of a money maker than Cotto-Canelo really.

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                    • SugarRaRobinson
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                      #80
                      GGG vs Grand Tureano , starring Clint Eastwood

                      I can't make this sh.t up .

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