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  • Scipio2009
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    #111
    Originally posted by Progrssive_Jedi
    He shouldn't be fight a MW though. His hands are too soft.



    Bs, he does not rehydrate 5 pounds.

    You look at him on the scales, look at him on fight night. He wasn't that much smaller than Canelo, and Canelo weighed 165.



    Did you even read what I posted. I said clearly Floyd has no business fighting GGG.

    I said the weight difference is comparable to that of GGG and Ward.



    By comparing using what available pre weight data we have, and also comparing him to the other fighters that weigh in at 185 and are standing next to him.

    The average fighter puts on at least 10-15 pounds. Ward weighed in at 172 his last fight. Ten pounds puts him at least at 182. If you look at him,nits likely he was at least 185 if not 190.

    Watch enough boxers and you generally can tell how much they rehydrate.



    Just look at Canelo and Floyd in that fight. Floyd is coming in at least 155 now.

    Problem is, no one knows for sure, because he hides it now.

    It's largely believed Canelo may even of come in over 170 for that fight.



    I don't believe for one second Floyd was 150 while Canelo was 20 pounds heavier.
    The thickness of Canelo's trunk against Mayweather's trunk. You can't be this dumb, right?

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    • Scipio2009
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      #112
      Originally posted by Mercdoc1998
      The difference is that GGG doesn't go around saying he's the GOAT after running and dancing his way past undersized, beaten up or just older "former" champions. The bar is higher because Fraud made it higher but as usual Fraud just doesn't want to pay for it. Your point is valid though that Ray Leonard was a true champion taking the challenges he did. Fraud has proven he is not by avoiding them his entire career. If ya wanna boast your the GOAT then step up or shut up because that decision determines your credibility.
      Guess you've never heard Abel Sanchez talk.

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      • Progrssive_Jedi
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        #113
        Originally posted by Scipio2009
        The thickness of Canelo's trunk against Mayweather's trunk. You can't be this dumb, right?
        No one is saying Mayweather is same size as Canelo. I'm saying he isn't 20 pounds lighter.

        I think Mayweather likely comes in about 15 pounds lighter than GGG if they fight (a fight I'm totally again, it's unfair, Floyd is too old and too small. He can't hurt GGG at all).

        My point is, Ward would be about 15 pounds heavier than GGG if they fought.

        The difference is, GGG can hurt Ward. I think that fight should happen, prob 2017.

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        • Progrssive_Jedi
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          #114
          Omg, Yes, Ward did say he walks around at 180. Likely fights a bit heavier. Duh

          Originally posted by SUBZER0ED
          As it is ridiculous to suggest that Mayweather should have fought GGG, so it is to suggest that GGG fight Kovalev. Anybody who says that crap just wants to see the fighter they don't like get beat up by someone bigger than they are, because no one in their weight class could beat them. That said, Ward has been talking smack lately, but if GGG does fight him, Andre may eat his words.
          I agree, Floyd can't hurt GGG. His hands are too ****** up. It's just unfair.


          Originally posted by Scipio2009
          The PPV that Andre is co-featured on will likely do 4-5 times whatever Golovkin's number ends up being ... and Ward and Golovkin will likely end up taking home the same payday.

          Odd that the "PPV star" is only now getting to Ward's guaranteed payday.
          1. It'll have zero to do with Ward.

          2. It's two PPV stars together.

          3. It's as much about two country rivalry.

          4. Quite literally GGG first PPV.

          5. Roc Nation has overpaid Ward in past, likely loses money. I'm not sure what he'll get, but if your suggestion Ward is a bigger star than GGG, you need to start looking around you.

          Originally posted by Scipio2009
          lol. Andre Ward has already stated that 180lbs is where he walks around at. The desperation on your part is laughable.
          Laughable.

          You think Ward walks around at 180, but doesn't fight any heavier.

          He is having trouble making weight at 168.

          He at least fights at 185, if not 190.

          There is nothing laughable about that.
          Last edited by Progrssive_Jedi; 10-20-2015, 04:11 PM.

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          • radioraheem
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            #115
            Originally posted by Progrssive_Jedi
            No one is saying Mayweather is same size as Canelo. I'm saying he isn't 20 pounds lighter.

            I think Mayweather likely comes in about 15 pounds lighter than GGG if they fight (a fight I'm totally again, it's unfair, Floyd is too old and too small. He can't hurt GGG at all).

            My point is, Ward would be about 15 pounds heavier than GGG if they fought.

            The difference is, GGG can hurt Ward. I think that fight should happen, prob 2017.
            And how do you know this? There's too much evidence that says otherwise. We have info from 30-day weigh-ins which point to 150 lbs. The 7-day weigh-ins are also consistent. And the fight night weigh-ins we have seen are all consistent too.

            Next, there's no way Golovkin comes in at 170 lbs. He'll come into the ring even higher just to give himself even more of a physical advantage unless there's a rehydration clause! It's only smart. Just another reason why that fight is just a fantasy.

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            • Progrssive_Jedi
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              #116
              Originally posted by radioraheem
              And how do you know this? There's too much evidence that says otherwise. We have info from 30-day weigh-ins which point to 150 lbs. The 7-day weigh-ins are also consistent. And the fight night weigh-ins we have seen are all consistent too.

              Next, there's no way Golovkin comes in at 170 lbs. He'll come into the ring even higher just to give himself even more of a physical advantage unless there's a rehydration clause! It's only smart. Just another reason why that fight is just a fantasy.
              GGG has been mandated to get on scale right before match. We always know his fight weight.

              But I've said repeatedly, the Floyd GGG fight doesn't make sense.

              I'm saying the weight differences are comparable with GGG/Ward.

              Weight isn't the reason Floyd should fight GGG.

              It's Floyd is too old, can't hurt GGG at all. So GGG just walks through Floyd and eventually lands.

              Floyd is 38 years old. It's too much to ask.

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              • Progrssive_Jedi
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                #117
                Originally posted by Scipio2009
                Guess you've never heard Abel Sanchez talk.
                Sanchez never said GGG would be TBE, actual what he said is he could end up #2.

                And GGG said not close yet.

                What GGG says should matter.

                I don't think Floyd is wrong to think himself great. He is supposed to.

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                • doom_specialist
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                  #118
                  Originally posted by Sledgeweather17
                  Didn't hide it against cotton,canelo, and chino, and those were the biggest guys he fought since Oscar, so stop with the smoke and mirrors, we see right through you. Floyds heaviest is one fifty one. The scales don't lie.
                  Floyd obviously paid off the guy weighing him lol

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                  • doom_specialist
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                    #119
                    Most writers said that Pacquiao was Mayweather's legacy defining fight. After he beat Pacquiao, writers started saying that he didn't fulfill his potential by entering his 6th weight class at 39 years old, and challenging the best middleweight in the world The Mayweather standard is an unforgiving one, I must say.

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                    • radioraheem
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                      #120
                      Originally posted by doom_specialist
                      Floyd obviously paid off the guy weighing him lol
                      Yeah, I forgot, he has everyone on payroll.

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