Are There Any Fighters Who Don't Cheat?

[Rath]

It comes with the territory but when you say if a fighter gets a way with it, oh well, it sounded like condoning. If a fighter I am a fan of cheats, I don't like that either. I don't believe in a perfect world but I do believe a referee should call out a cheater and the fans should as well. And don't get me wrong. I have seen plenty of fights where there was virtually no cheating. So, I know there are many clean fighters. I think that should be encouraged.

mind you that man is a 25 year human behaviorist according to him.

[Slip Stream]

It comes with the territory but when you say if a fighter gets a way with it, oh well, it sounded like condoning. If a fighter I am a fan of cheats, I don't like that either. I don't believe in a perfect world but I do believe a referee should call out a cheater and the fans should as well. And don't get me wrong. I have seen plenty of fights where there was virtually no cheating. So, I know there are many clean fighters. I think that should be encouraged.

Clean fighting should be the norm but it isn't. If the ref detects an intentional foul he should call a fighter on it it but if he doesn't see it, oh well. i know there are clean fighters but boxing by its very nature is brutal and competitive in a way other sports are not.

I remember Tyson said something to the effect of, Mayweather is so good he's one of those kind of fighters you can't fight clean. At the time I thought that was a pretty messed up statement to make, amazingly honest, but ****ed up none-the-less. My take away now is less judgmental and dramatic, I still think it's messed up but boxing is not clean. There are of course attempts to refine the sports, but at the end of the day its two guys beating the living hell out of each other.

[ModernTalking]

PAC Fk cheat for sure, that nicca wasn't supposed to hit or hurt Floyd but he did anyway.

[_Maxi]

I think you'd be better off going with Tyson's own admission of using PEDs in his book as his cheating crime. I mean the ear thing got him DQ'd. And I mean cmon has biting someones ear every helped win a fight? The premise is cheating & usually when you cheat you're looking to win or get some help winning via that cheating method. There was no winning option in Tyson's ear biting incident. Poor sportsmanship? Sure. Cheating? Nah.

Forget PEDs. Most of them use them nowadays. 90% I'd say. Pavlik was clean for example.

[Tony Trick-Pony]

mind you that man is a 25 year human behaviorist according to him.

Haha. Right.

[Tony Trick-Pony]

Clean fighting should be the norm but it isn't. If the ref detects an intentional foul he should call a fighter on it it but if he doesn't see it, oh well. i know there are clean fighters but boxing by its very nature is brutal and competitive in a way other sports are not.

I remember Tyson said something to the effect of, Mayweather is so good he's one of those kind of fighters you can't fight clean. At the time I thought that was a pretty messed up statement to make, amazingly honest, but ****ed up none-the-less. My take away now is less judgmental and dramatic, I still think it's messed up but boxing is not clean. There are of course attempts to refine the sports, but at the end of the day its two guys beating the living hell out of each other.

Yes it is brutal and more is at stake than in other sports. No argument there and it is high drama. I don't see Tyson's thinking on that. Mayweather lost cleanly to Castillo and Maidana. There's no way a guy can bite through a glove.

Anyway, I agree fundamentally. Just never like to see cheating going on. Sure, if the ref does not see it, there is not much you can do and as far as video rulings, sometimes the video can show things at the wrong angle. So I can't be sure that's effective.

[Slip Stream]

Yes it is brutal and more is at stake than in other sports. No argument there and it is high drama. I don't see Tyson's thinking on that. Mayweather lost cleanly to Castillo and Maidana. There's no way a guy can bite through a glove.

Anyway, I agree fundamentally. Just never like to see cheating going on. Sure, if the ref does not see it, there is not much you can do and as far as video rulings, sometimes the video can show things at the wrong angle. So I can't be sure that's effective.

He didn't lose cleanly to Maidana friend, Maidana is a dirty fighter that bit and did whatever he could to get an advantage over Mayweather. The human bite is very dangerous and powerful, the camera showed him biting dude. He didn't have to pierce the glove for it to hurt.

[Tony Trick-Pony]

He didn't lose cleanly to Maidana friend, Maidana is a dirty fighter that bit and did whatever he could to get an advantage over Mayweather. The human bite is very dangerous and powerful, the camera showed him biting dude. He didn't have to pierce the glove for it to hurt.

Haha. Well, the ref didn't see it. Oh well.

[Rath]

Haha. Well, the ref didn't see it. Oh well.

you got the human behaviorist right there, well done.

[soul_survivor]

It seems like a fine line. You are saying that excessive breaking of rules is cheating. The one time events are just going to happen. I can go with that. But I do think warnings should be given the first time and sometimes they are, but in other cases, they are not. I don't think a point should be deducted right off the bat, but when a boxer clinches or head butts or rabbit punches excessively and the ref does nothing, then the ref needs to be fined and suspended.

I totally agree, especially in examples such as Hopkins v Murat, when it was clear that Smoger favoured Hopkins. He should have gotten a fine at the very least, it's the only way boxing will be rid of bias or blatant disregard of the rules.