Comments Thread For: “Fighting Words” — David Lemieux and Goliath Golovkin

[BlackSoul]

LOL at this idiot!

Hopkins was 30 years old when he won his first world title and he didn't become UNDISPUTED middleweight champ till he was 39 years old, you plonker.

GGG is going to get there at a younger age than BHop. Providing he keeps winning, of course.

"B ... b ... b ... but ... "

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pj6vxsP1yPA

people forget B Hop was in PRISON his story is waaaaaay different and more awe inspiring than ANY thang ggg has done or will do. B Hop was a UNDISPUTED champion not a paper champ JUST now fighting a "champion" who is at best a b- fighter at 33 or 34 YEARS old and these fighters are STILL not the best or "elite" 160lbers

come again

[BlackSoul]

You are either ignorant or willfully ignorant of Golovkin's career - and for someone who comments so frequently on that very subject you'd do well to at least peruse his Wiki page before making comments like the one i have highlighted.

Golovkin didn't turn professional until he was 24. So how could he have gotten to his current status by the time he was 25?

Also, he was then with promoter issues until 2010 by which time he was about to turn 28 years old in April 2010.

From May 2006 until January 2010 he was with Universum and fought his first 18 pro fights. By Golovkin's own admittance he was held back from stiffer competition because Universum had no career plan in place for him. His last fight with Universum was against Mikhail Makarov in late November 2009 that saw a KO in the 2nd minute of the 2nd round for Golovkin to go 18-0.

Then came the Universum split and in the next 9 months Golovkin joined up with K2 and saw his first fight under them in August 2010, his 19th pro bout, a 1st round KO against Milton Nunez in Panama.

That 9 months inactive spell was the longest spell of inactivity in Golovkin's pro career and points to the issues he was having with Universum.

Effectively, we can fairly say that Golovkin has had 3 careers. One amateur career, a poorly managed first pro career with Universum and a 2nd stunningly well managed pro career with K2.

For Golovkin detractors to say that he has done "nothing" until he is 33 years old is in someway correct if you consider being a title holder and making so many defenses "nothing". On the other hand it can be considered a willful dismissal of late start a as pro and then 4 wasted years with Universum.

GOLOVKIN DIDN'T GET GOING UNTIL HE WAS 28.

And the contrarian argument would be "pity the opposition if K2 had signed him when he was 24 and not 28 years old."

so why is he NOW "just" fighting a "champion" who isnt even regarded as an "elite" middleweight he's just a title holder.
stop playin' there are other elite mw's that possess more of a threat other than just landing a "lucky" shot to ko ggg
its the reason why ggg is the favorite in all his fights bc of the COMPETITION he fights

[BlackSoul]

Canelo rehydrates to 175, always over 170. GGG to 170. Stop that nonsense.



For one, H-hop was much older when he unified the division.

Two, GGG likely gets the chance to do the same next year, or at least 3/4. And younger than B-hop was. At much younger age.

And he'll likely break his record at younger age too.

Here you go, read son.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernard_Hopkins

and look at ggg's COMPETITION and RESUME`

[kafkod]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pj6vxsP1yPA

people forget B Hop was in PRISON his story is waaaaaay different and more awe inspiring than ANY thang ggg has done or will do. B Hop was a UNDISPUTED champion not a paper champ JUST now fighting a "champion" who is at best a b- fighter at 33 or 34 YEARS old and these fighters are STILL not the best or "elite" 160lbers

come again

"B ... b ... b ... but ..."

[SteveM]

so why is he NOW "just" fighting a "champion" who isnt even regarded as an "elite" middleweight he's just a title holder.
stop playin' there are other elite mw's that possess more of a threat other than just landing a "lucky" shot to ko ggg
its the reason why ggg is the favorite in all his fights bc of the COMPETITION he fights

Really weak. You remind me of a never-vanquished-spirit in body, beat you over the head with a concussive argument and you still surface for "more" totally believing that you are winning arguments while all around look on with bemused expressions.

If not obvious to you it is obvious to most others that prior to 2010 he was ducked by Sturm, in fact even after 2010 - Sturm held out to fight Barker and Geale. Then from 2011/12 onwards Martinez was clearly ducking Golovkin. So who are these other elite mws both willing and able to fight Golovkin over the last 5 years?

[BlackSoul]

Really weak. You remind me of a never-vanquished-spirit in body, beat you over the head with a concussive argument and you still surface for "more" totally believing that you are winning arguments while all around look on with bemused expressions.

If not obvious to you it is obvious to most others that prior to 2010 he was ducked by Sturm, in fact even after 2010 - Sturm held out to fight Barker and Geale. Then from 2011/12 onwards Martinez was clearly ducking Golovkin. So who are these other elite mws both willing and able to fight Golovkin over the last 5 years?

erislandy lara who is a division SOUTH of 160 called him out and he hasnt accepted that challenge why not?
come again

[SteveM]

erislandy lara who is a division SOUTH of 160 called him out and he hasnt accepted that challenge why not?
come again

Since when is Erislandy lara an elite MW? WTF!!

Just admit it - you have no clue.

Lara is not a MW and although he is a very good fighter I haven't heard anybody apart from you call him elite. If he was elite he would have taken out Canelo - instead he actually ran during some rounds to avoid being taken out by Canelo.