Comments Thread For: Rigondeaux's Promoter Vows To Fight WBO's Strip Threat

[youbeight]

What are you trying to say here?

WBO not giving him a mandatory challenger is stopping him from fighting a top 15 opponent?

How.... how is that a problem? He has more than 10 other opponents to select, I'm not saying 15 because I didn't look at the rankings and don't know if there are vacant spots.

Are you telling me that since they don't have a mandatory challenger, Rigodneaux is unable to try and make a fight with any of the other top 15 opponents?

And who cares about Andrade... he should've been stripped long ago.

If Rigo is fighting in November, then fight against a top 15 opponent and announce it before the deadline

Considering that we criticize fighters for not fighting their mandatories and abusing their voluntary request (wilder, Floyd, Cotto, and etc) yes it's the WBO job to issue their champion a rightful challenger even when no one wants to fight him in his division. I mean do we really want another merry goround like Martinez and the 154 title. Rigo is seen as high risk low reward for the 122 division. Therefore to keep your champion active and not abusing his voluntary defenses, you issue him the mandatory at all times. Look at 154: Andrade turned down his mandatory and the WBO did NOTHING. They didn't even issue him a "show cause" letter. They left him to do what he felt like and stripped him almost 14 months after his last defense. Meanwhile when Peter quillin vacated his belt to avoid korobov, the WBO issued a ready challenger vs korobov and a title eliminatory between Eubank and BJS for the winner of korob vs lee. So yes it's inconsistent. Abraham has been issued a mandatory this year; wlad has been issued a mandatory this year, but they've done nothing to issue Rigo a defense at 122 and enforce a 9 month rule they didn't use for Andrade when he wanted to turn down his mandatory in Charlo Bc he wasn't getting paid enough. Sorry by the WBO isn't consistent. And they know it.

[Hougigo]

Considering that we criticize fighters for not fighting their mandatories and abusing their voluntary request (wilder, Floyd, Cotto, and etc) yes it's the WBO job to issue their champion a rightful challenger even when no one wants to fight him in his division. I mean do we really want another merry goround like Martinez and the 154 title. Rigo is seen as high risk low reward for the 122 division. Therefore to keep your champion active and not abusing his voluntary defenses, you issue him the mandatory at all times. Look at 154: Andrade turned down his mandatory and the WBO did NOTHING. They didn't even issue him a "show cause" letter. They left him to do what he felt like and stripped him almost 14 months after his last defense. Meanwhile when Peter quillin vacated his belt to avoid korobov, the WBO issued a ready challenger vs korobov and a title eliminatory between Eubank and BJS for the winner of korob vs lee. So yes it's inconsistent. Abraham has been issued a mandatory this year; wlad has been issued a mandatory this year, but they've done nothing to issue Rigo a defense at 122 and enforce a 9 month rule they didn't use for Andrade when he wanted to turn down his mandatory in Charlo Bc he wasn't getting paid enough. Sorry by the WBO isn't consistent. And they know it.

Has team Rigo even sent out fight offers to anybody yet? You send a fight proposal to everybody on that list then complain to the organization that nobody wants to fight you.

Yea WBO isn't inconsistent... no surprise there... but they let a guy like Rigo keep the belt for 9 months and gave them free reign to make a voluntary with anybody in the top 15 to make a defense to keep their belt....nobody, nothing.

Rigo broke off Top Rank last year and only came up with one fight...now he lost out on the only guy who gives a crap about his career. If Rigo is signing with somebody he better announce it soon because he's still doing absolutely nothing

[youbeight]

Has team Rigo even sent out fight offers to anybody yet? You send a fight proposal to everybody on that list then complain to the organization that nobody wants to fight you.

Yea WBO isn't inconsistent... no surprise there... but they let a guy like Rigo keep the belt for 9 months and gave them free reign to make a voluntary with anybody in the top 15 to make a defense to keep their belt....nobody, nothing.

Rigo broke off Top Rank last year and only came up with one fight...now he lost out on the only guy who gives a crap about his career. If Rigo is signing with somebody he better announce it soon because he's still doing absolutely nothing

He was willing to pay LSC what he wanted for their unification. Caribe as ****ty as they are we're ready to pay Avalos 80k to get his mandatory out of the way at the end of the year. The question is not the offers made but why didn't the WBO just issue him a new mandatory when Avalos skipped them. In this age in boxing we've made it very clear that champions should be fighting their mandatories or other champions, no one in the 122 division has shown interest on that level to fight Rigo. Nonito donaire is ranked 2nd. Rigo was always open to working out a donaire rematch with TR since their first fight. At 35 years old for someone like Rigo to be given the option to fight anyone in the top 15 he's gonna aim for the best of the division. They just don't want to fight him. The only sanction body willing to issue new mandatories at all times this year has been the IBF and they've done it consistently.

[Scipio2009]

Rigo needs to sign with Haymon , he will get him defenses for his titles .

Hit and not be hit .

Haymon isn't going to just let Caribe sit around and collect a check, and Caribe doesn't seem all that inclined to actually work.

Outside of the Fighter LLCs, Haymon seems to make sure that every promoter he does business with actually does the work.

As long as Rigo has that forever deal with Caribe, Haymon's not touching him with a ten-foot pole.

[Scipio2009]

The WBO sees that Nonito Donaire has gotten himself back into the top 3, understand that Bob Arum back's Nonito and HBO is backing Arum, and wants to generate that sanctioning fee off of their 122 belt.

Say what you want about the other sanctioning bodies, the WBO has proven itself to be clearly the worst.

[Hougigo]

He was willing to pay LSC what he wanted for their unification. Caribe as ****ty as they are we're ready to pay Avalos 80k to get his mandatory out of the way at the end of the year. The question is not the offers made but why didn't the WBO just issue him a new mandatory when Avalos skipped them. In this age in boxing we've made it very clear that champions should be fighting their mandatories or other champions, no one in the 122 division has shown interest on that level to fight Rigo. Nonito donaire is ranked 2nd. Rigo was always open to working out a donaire rematch with TR since their first fight. At 35 years old for someone like Rigo to be given the option to fight anyone in the top 15 he's gonna aim for the best of the division. They just don't want to fight him. The only sanction body willing to issue new mandatories at all times this year has been the IBF and they've done it consistently.

So you point out that he needs a mandatory to fight, but then also showed that a mandatory could just as easily not fight him.... so why are you pushing this mandatory thing so hard? Back to my point, he has free reign to fight anybody in the top 15 and how many of them has he offered fights to? Haven't heard anything on that now.

So they top guys don't want to fight him, is it best to just sit down and do nothing at all?

I don't see how it's appropriate to think at his age it's best to sit and do nothing if they don't get the fights they want.

The lack of mandatory isn't the reason he's not fighting

[youbeight]

So you point out that he needs a mandatory to fight, but then also showed that a mandatory could just as easily not fight him.... so why are you pushing this mandatory thing so hard? Back to my point, he has free reign to fight anybody in the top 15 and how many of them has he offered fights to? Haven't heard anything on that now.

So they top guys don't want to fight him, is it best to just sit down and do nothing at all?

I don't see how it's appropriate to think at his age it's best to sit and do nothing if they don't get the fights they want.

The lack of mandatory isn't the reason he's not fighting

Then you keep going down the line. Avalos had the luxury of also being in the top 5 for the IBF. How many top 10 WBO fighters have the ability to turn down Rigo and still get a title shot elsewhere ? Hardly. The IBF just asked 13 guys if they wanted to fight Beterbiev in an eliminator. If the WBO orders guys to fight Rigo and they decline, they lose their ranking and have to fight more fights just to either regain their place or somewhere else. That's the point of the rankings.

And meanwhile with his option to fight guys with a voluntary, we've already criticize fighters like wilder and Cotto for using their voluntaries in geale and molina who proved to be unworthy, so why the hell would we be satisfied if Rigo did the same?

The WBO has a job to do by issuing mandatory challengers just like they've had to for other divisions. you can't have a champion not make a single mandatory defense of his title since getting the belt and hold him accountable when he's been open to his mandatories. They'll strip fighters for unsanctioned fighte but will let others blatantly turn down their mandatories Bc of the money.

[Hougigo]

Then you keep going down the line. Avalos had the luxury of also being in the top 5 for the IBF. How many top 10 WBO fighters have the ability to turn down Rigo and still get a title shot elsewhere ? Hardly. The IBF just asked 13 guys if they wanted to fight Beterbiev in an eliminator. If the WBO orders guys to fight Rigo and they decline, they lose their ranking and have to fight more fights just to either regain their place or somewhere else. That's the point of the rankings.

And meanwhile with his option to fight guys with a voluntary, we've already citizens fighters like wilder and Cotto for using their voluntaries in geale and moline who proved to be unworthy, so why the hell would we be satisfied if Rigo did the same?

The WBO has a job to do by issuing mandatory challengers just like they've had to for other divisions. you can't have a champion not make a single mandatory defense of his title since getting the belt and hold him accountable when he's been open to his mandatories. They'll strip fighters for unsanctioned fighte but will let others blatantly turn down their mandatories Bc of the money.

He just fought Sod cookieGym and a Japanese vampire in Japan... they've literally approached nobody because Rigo wanted to break away from Hyde and now all Rigo is left with is a promoter that doesn't do it's job.

Are you telling me the only time the promoter should work is when they have a mandatory challenger and they have to go to a purse bid because that's the only thing Caribe has done for Rigo.

[youbeight]

He just fought Sod cookieGym and a Japanese vampire in Japan... they've literally approached nobody because Rigo wanted to break away from Hyde and now all Rigo is left with is a promoter that doesn't do it's job.

Are you telling me the only time the promoter should work is when they have a mandatory challenger and they have to go to a purse bid because that's the only thing Caribe has done for Rigo.

I'm telling you that your mandatory opts not to fight you and your sanction body is ready to strip when they have the POWER to order you fights when you can't get any, it's your fault ? That's the point I'm making. If Rigo would have been doing what wilder is doing, we'd all be up his ass for avoiding stiff competition and cherry picking. But when he's shown that he'll fight the other champs and his mandatories and the WBO doesn't issue him one it's his fault ?

[Hougigo]

I'm telling you that your mandatory opts not to fight you and your sanction body is ready to strip when they have the POWER to order you fights when you can't get any, it's your fault ? That's the point I'm making. If Rigo would have been doing what wilder is doing, we'd all be up his ass for avoiding stiff competition and cherry picking. But when he's shown that he'll fight the other champs and his mandatories and the WBO doesn't issue him one it's his fault ?

And my point is that him and his promoter have the ability to go and try to make a fight with anybody in the top 15 of the organization.... but they haven't done anything in the like in the 9 months since their last fight.

My original point is Carribe isn't doing anything.... and they've always done nothing. The one thing they've done is put a bid up in a fight where it was known well before that the opponent wasn't going to fight him.

Is it Rigo's fault he doesn't have a mandatory? No

Is it his promoters fault for not approaching anybody and doing absolutely nothing to make a fight? Yes