Andre Ward vs Azea Augustuma?

[daggum]

I don't see most people having this opinion, casual or hardcore fans, who saw the fight. You are in the distinct minority here.

well casuals don't watch ward fights so you can't possibly include them. if hardcore fans think clinching 100 times should be allowed then boxing is doomed because tha was complete and utter sh-it. not entertaining and clinching is clearly against the rules. if rules aren't going to be enforced then this isn't a legitimate sport. do you think clinching that much and headbutting should be legal? if the majority of hardcore fans think its legal then they have been conditioned and tricked into thinking clinching is real boxing. its not.

[Mr.Fantastic]

Michael Yormark, president and chief of branding and strategy for parent company Roc Nation:
"Triple G has fought journeymen for his entire career. It's obvious. We all know that. Andre Ward has fought the best of the best. Triple was at the top of his list. He was denied the opportunity to fight him in 36 minutes, so we've moved on. We'll be announcing our plans in the very near future, as to what Andre will be doing for the remainder of 2015 and in 2016. But we are moving on because we want to move forward and fight the best".


HBO: "How about Yunieski Gonzalez? He just gave Jean Pascal all he could handle".

Ward: "How about Azea Augustama? He just got schooled by the guy I easily beat".

[Eff Pandas]

do you think clinching that much and headbutting should be legal? i

I don't think there should be any allowed clinching or holding & hitting. I think it f#cks up the flow of the fight way more often than its fun to watch. Its still something thats allowed or allowed within reason by most refs right now doe is the thing.

Headbutts aren't allowed, but I think the problem there its its rare when a headbutt is malicious & its even rarer that you can tell a headbutt is malicious. The overwhelming majority of headbutts are accidental. In the case of the headbutts in discussion I don't recall those being malicious headbutts or headbutts I'd expect a fighter to be DQ'd over.

[BattlingNelson]

Okay fair enough. Maybe that fight changes from a TW11 to a W12 for Ward.

Rather to a KO 5 for Kessler.

[bojangles1987]

goosen got him a 2 million guarantee and then he sued him! do you know why he sued him? because hbo didn't allow him to fight the bums he wanted(truax, sartison, etc...) can you believe that? he sued goosen because hbo wouldn't let him fight bums. he should have sued himself for being such a coward. nonsensical and he lost 3 times in court. its a shame goosen died. he was keeping ward's ego in check. now its loose again that roc nation is stuck with the fraud on their payroll. soon ward will sue roc nation because they didnt' let him fight bums for 4 years.

He actually sued Goossen because Bob Arum was promising him a Chavez Jr. if he broke away and joined Top Rank. Ward only stopped chasing that fight last year when Chavez's stock dropped. Then I think he started talking **** about other fighters chasing Chavez, though I might be remembering that incorrectly.

Damn Ward acted like a ******. He better stop doing that ****.

[bojangles1987]

Ward literally had the easiest road in the Super Six, only fighter that didn't have to travel. Plus he's the only one who go to fighter journeyman Salido Bika and Edison Miranda knockout victim Allan Green.

He only fought Bika and Green because other fighters dropped out. Blame them, not Ward. Plus he dominated the 2 best fighters besides himself in the tourney, the last 3000 miles away from home.

[M Bison]

GGG scared doe!!!

[M Bison]

well casuals don't watch ward fights so you can't possibly include them. if hardcore fans think clinching 100 times should be allowed then boxing is doomed because tha was complete and utter sh-it. not entertaining and clinching is clearly against the rules. if rules aren't going to be enforced then this isn't a legitimate sport. do you think clinching that much and headbutting should be legal? if the majority of hardcore fans think its legal then they have been conditioned and tricked into thinking clinching is real boxing. its not.

I think some just want to defend a boxer regardless, I like Wladimir Klitschko but the clinching he does over some of his previous opponents shouldn't be allowed similar to Bhop, Floyd and so on and so on.
Andre Ward Vs Mikkel Kessler fight was an absolute disgrace to the sport and Ward was the main instigator to all of that **** that happened in that fight just very shameful.

[ShoulderRoll]

Rather to a KO 5 for Kessler.

Leaving the accidental clash of heads aside, Kessler was completely clueless about what to do against Ward's outside game. It was going to be a long night for the Dane regardless.

[Eff Pandas]

Rather to a KO 5 for Kessler.

Idk about that. But fair enough, if thats your opinion.