Comments Thread For: GGG's Coach Explains Why Andre Ward is Not Relevant

[aboutfkntime]

Hero, still supporting those ass-hat ABC sanctioning bodies

It must kill you that they rank Cotto as the best middleweight on the planet

Chill man, the best middleweight on the planet is Gennady Golovkin.

And he is still a very good fighter, and a beast at 160, despite the fact that he blatantly ducked Andre Ward

[aboutfkntime]

Ring mag is not a sanctioning body, cretin. Why do you bother? You're a joke

It must kill you that Ring ranks Cotto as the best middleweight on the planet

[Larry the boss]

Didn't hear you crying about the weight when Golovkin wanted Chavez

Or Froch......

[aboutfkntime]

They said that comment years ago.

Aaah, ok..... so it was an " old " comment.

How long do honest comments last, until they become a lie ?

[hitking]

They said that comment years ago. Never in that comment did they say we will take on anyone whenever they feel like it.

You are arguing a ****** point.

You act like just saying you'll fight someone means you have to do it when that person wants, even if its over bigger fights.

I doubt you would argue the same for anyone else.



OK, point taken. But if it is modern times, same rules, that would be their weights.

The problem isnt what they would fight at, its that they wouldnt cut that low in the first place.

[QUOTE=hitking;16120803]In the era of the Original 8, there was no cruiserweight division.

Either way, I doubt very seriously guys would be rehydrating to ridiculous weights pretty much every fighter nowadays balloons to with only 10-12hrs between weigh-in and fight. As opposed to the 24-30hrs they get now. Would would force guya to fight in a more natural division.

BTW, doubt very seriously Ward is going up as high as 190. Canelo us usually around the 165 mark on fight night as well. And those weights are unofficial. And they often take place on the equivalent of a home bathroom scale. And the fighters are usually clothed.

You should try looking it up.

Canelo said Mayweather tried to include a "rehydration clause" in the fight contract, where Canelo would be unable to weigh above a certain number on the day of the fight.

Canelo, rehydrates to more than 170-pounds (175 in last fight) on the day of the fight, rejected that clause. "They came up with a second-day weigh-in.

http://www.************.com/2013/04/...-the-question/

Look it up, its true, Canelo has been rehydrating past 170 for awhile, and he was at 175 for Kirkland.


In all fairness, Andrade and Lara both rehydrate in the 170's


GGG's last fight, he rehydrated to 172

Gennady Golovkin VS Willie Monroe Junior - Contested at Middleweight

Golovkin: Official: 159 - Unofficial: 170
Monroe Junior: Official: 160 - Unofficial: 172

As for Ward, he has hid his rehydration weight, but even for Smith secondary weigh in was at 181.

Its largely considered that Ward rehydrates anywhere from 180s or low 190s now.

https://www.************.com/boxing-...se-of-175/7933[/QUOTE]

You're totally missing my point. I'm not talking rehydration. I'm talking about the ability to make weight in a healthy manner. And compete at a high level with a same day weigh-in. Most fighters today couldn't competein their current division with same day weigh-ins. IMO Ward and GGG fit that bill.

Likewise, without the intermediate weight divisions. Ward and GGG would most likely both be comepeting as light heavyweights. Because neither could make 160 the morning of a fight and compete at a high level a couple hours later.

[Progrssive_Jedi]

Ring mag is not a sanctioning body, cretin. Why do you bother? You're a joke

Ring mag matters, unfortunately, they are used by many to judge who is the top.

And Cotto is Lineal MW Champ, he is quite literally the man to beat in the MW division.

Unifying a division is big, especially now a days when politics come in to play.

Hero, still supporting those ass-hat ABC sanctioning bodies

It must kill you that they rank Cotto as the best middleweight on the planet

Chill man, the best middleweight on the planet is Gennady Golovkin.

And he is still a very good fighter, and a beast at 160, despite the fact that he blatantly ducked Andre Ward

It doesnt kill me, because Cotto will lose it soon, and Canelo either fights GGG or vacates.

So, no big deal.

He, and the mass majority of GGG's bandwagon jumpers don't know that. They just started following boxing because of Floyd-Manny. GGG is just the d1ck of the month.

Yea, just a **** of the month

Can GGG be Boxings Next Superstar?

http://www.forbes.com/sites/joshkatz...ather-retires/

Gennady Golovkin poised to replace Floyd Mayweather Jr. as boxing's best

http://www.latimes.com/sports/sports...006-story.html

Really, it didn't matter to the point I was making.

But then again, I am not sure you have a point, other than trashing GGG.

Must kill you that dude is blowing up.

[wlliam]

All these Cotto fans still hiding behing Ward. Prior to Cotto ducking GGG, NOBODY gave a shtt about Ward. Ironic.

[kafkod]

Nah, Duva stated that Kovalev will be inactive until next year.

But they have insisted that they will fight Ward.

You can only take them at their word, right ?

Just like team Golovkin !





No, wait.....

Duva is in no position to insist on anything where Andre Ward is concerned.

Heck, even his own promoters can't do that!

[jqSide]

We all know GGG is the new king of boxing, fan or hater.

Being so popular and famous also brings alot of haters, thats life.

Usually the haters write more than the fans, because the fans just enjoy GGGs fight and are having a good time, laughing about the pathetic haters.

Haters gonna hate and they will never stop, so lets enjoy it.

Alot of people are desperate for GGG to lose or look bad somehow, people now have to create myths and hypothesis that GGG "might" lose to that mostly irrelevant boring guy in another weightclass. Having to rely on a party****** to dethrone the party king is kinda pathetic, but thats all the haters have left.

Oh what a wonderful time it is being a GGG fan.

You ain't seen nothin' yet doe. Just wait and see when the Lemieux fight is over (assuming GG wins.) This Ward thing is going to get even bigger. Happy days are here again.

[Progrssive_Jedi]

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You should try looking it up.

Canelo said Mayweather tried to include a "rehydration clause" in the fight contract, where Canelo would be unable to weigh above a certain number on the day of the fight.

Canelo, rehydrates to more than 170-pounds (175 in last fight) on the day of the fight, rejected that clause. "They came up with a second-day weigh-in.

http://www.************.com/2013/04/...-the-question/

Look it up, its true, Canelo has been rehydrating past 170 for awhile, and he was at 175 for Kirkland.


In all fairness, Andrade and Lara both rehydrate in the 170's


GGG's last fight, he rehydrated to 172

Gennady Golovkin VS Willie Monroe Junior - Contested at Middleweight

Golovkin: Official: 159 - Unofficial: 170
Monroe Junior: Official: 160 - Unofficial: 172

As for Ward, he has hid his rehydration weight, but even for Smith secondary weigh in was at 181.

Its largely considered that Ward rehydrates anywhere from 180s or low 190s now.

https://www.************.com/boxing-...se-of-175/7933

You're totally missing my point. I'm not talking rehydration. I'm talking about the ability to make weight in a healthy manner. And compete at a high level with a same day weigh-in. Most fighters today couldn't competein their current division with same day weigh-ins. IMO Ward and GGG fit that bill.

Likewise, without the intermediate weight divisions. Ward and GGG would most likely both be comepeting as light heavyweights. Because neither could make 160 the morning of a fight and compete at a high level a couple hours later.

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You said, "BTW, doubt very seriously Ward is going up as high as 190. Canelo us usually around the 165 mark on fight night as well. And those weights are unofficial. And they often take place on the equivalent of a home bathroom scale. And the fighters are usually clothed."

I showed you why that is not true.

Also, why GGG and Ward would not be fighting in same division.

To make the claim that Ward is not both Bigger and Longer than GGG is not correct.

Ward is the bigger of the two.

Which is exactly why those who hate GGG go to him.