Comments Thread For: Lemieux Coach Downs Sanchez's Boasts of GGG's Ring IQ

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  • steeve steel
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    #11
    Don't waste your money... fight may last 2 rounds, maybe 3. Viloria-Chocalito will be good though. But not worth 50$.

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    • Cinci Champ
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      #12
      Originally posted by danceswithfire
      defintitely buying this fight....GGG chin is gonna get tested like never before

      plus my boy brian is about to enter the p4p list, which he should've before the Estrada loss anyways
      u think so? i mean lemiuex has has the power to do it im just not sure hell be able to reach ggg. no chance ggg is as wreckless with lemieux as he is with opponents he knows cant really hurt him

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      • carolusdumus
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        #13
        Funny dude!!! What's wrong with Lemieux' chin? His loss against Rubio was due to exhaustion... nothing to do with having a glass chin...

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        • carolusdumus
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          Of course, Lemieux has has 31 KOs all by chance... ANd, no doubt, GGG's victory against feathered touch Monroe was extraordinary... Give me a break! GGG will be tested hard... He is going to be tagged by Lemieux since the Kazakh has a poor defense. In fact, I believe his still is most suited for Lemieux aggression. Very technical but slow as a snail and very hittable as seen in the Monroe fight. Lemieux has sometime difficulty with slick boxers such as N'Dam but not against flat footed ones... Lemieux will take this one...

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            #15
            I meat his style and not his "still" is suited for Lemieux.

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              #16
              Originally posted by AKAcronym
              If Lemieux's gameplan is trying to outjab Golovkin, he's definitely going to lose. His best bet is to employ something along what Porter does. He's not going to outbox Gennady.
              No he's not. And he's not going to outjab GGG. You're hinting at the right strategy but he needs to take it several steps further - smother Golovkin, stay in his chest, and try to negate the skill advantage. Making it a bomb throwing contest is his best chance to win.

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              • Progrssive_Jedi
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                #17
                Anyone that says GGG has bad Defense doesn't know Aggressive style well

                The aggressive style makes it hard to defend, but it can be done, and for an Aggressive style, GGG has some of the best D I've seen. He using his jab to distract, to block, to redirect shots. So sometime when GGG is getting hit, he has so with 1/3 of the intended power.

                You don't go 400+ fights without ever being knocked down without having a decent defense.

                And according to some, GGG has never really been stunned. I've seen him hit, bruised, but never really in trouble.

                You have to really slow the fight down to see his aggressive defense.


                Originally posted by steeve steel
                Don't waste your money... fight may last 2 rounds, maybe 3. Viloria-Chocalito will be good though. But not worth 50$.
                I imagine you probably would like no one to buy this fight.

                Originally posted by carolusdumus
                Funny dude!!! What's wrong with Lemieux' chin? His loss against Rubio was due to exhaustion... nothing to do with having a glass chin...
                He has been beaten twice right, and Id say he has an ok chin. N'Dam hurt him in round 12. Hell after 4 knockdown, the score cards were kind of close.

                Originally posted by carolusdumus
                Of course, Lemieux has has 31 KOs all by chance... ANd, no doubt, GGG's victory against feathered touch Monroe was extraordinary... Give me a break! GGG will be tested hard... He is going to be tagged by Lemieux since the Kazakh has a poor defense. In fact, I believe his still is most suited for Lemieux aggression. Very technical but slow as a snail and very hittable as seen in the Monroe fight. Lemieux has sometime difficulty with slick boxers such as N'Dam but not against flat footed ones... Lemieux will take this one...
                He quite literally let Monroe hit him at times. And GGG has great footwork and is very slick. GGG isn't exactly flat footed. He has great balance, even when throwing multiple power shots.

                I'm sure you've never truly studied him though, because you don't know what your talking about.

                Originally posted by carolusdumus
                I meat his style and not his "still" is suited for Lemieux.
                Originally posted by taste
                No he's not. And he's not going to outjab GGG. You're hinting at the right strategy but he needs to take it several steps further - smother Golovkin, stay in his chest, and try to negate the skill advantage. Making it a bomb throwing contest is his best chance to win.
                Meat?

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                • KnickTillDeaTh
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Progrssive_Jedi
                  The aggressive style makes it hard to defend, but it can be done, and for an Aggressive style, GGG has some of the best D I've seen. He using his jab to distract, to block, to redirect shots. So sometime when GGG is getting hit, he has so with 1/3 of the intended power.

                  You don't go 400+ fights without ever being knocked down without having a decent defense.

                  And according to some, GGG has never really been stunned. I've seen him hit, bruised, but never really in trouble.

                  You have to really slow the fight down to see his aggressive defense.




                  I imagine you probably would like no one to buy this fight.



                  He has been beaten twice right, and Id say he has an ok chin. N'Dam hurt him in round 12. Hell after 4 knockdown, the score cards were kind of close.



                  He quite literally let Monroe hit him at times. And GGG has great footwork and is very slick. GGG isn't exactly flat footed. He has great balance, even when throwing multiple power shots.

                  I'm sure you've never truly studied him though, because you don't know what your talking about.





                  Meat?
                  GGG didnt fight aggressive in the amateurs, he was a boxer puncher. GGG became an aggressive power puncher when he linked up with Sanchez professionally. So quite literally GGG has only fought this way for 33 fights not 400+. Also the amateurs are not an excepted measuring stick for how good a fighters chin is or isn't, for that matter neither is 32 of GGG's 33 opponents.

                  On top of that you are giving GGG to much credit for defense. Most of the time his opponents are running from him and punching while moving away due to the threat that GGG presents, which on its own will result in low accuracy, however when fighters actually punch GGG backs up straight which is not good defense. Fighters haven't had trouble finding him when they did punch, but it didnt really matter because the only fighter who had knock out power was Stevens, and GGG fought him from the outside, cautiously until the mid point of the fight when he began to close the distance. Which is the way I see this fight going. GGG ko Lemiuex in the 8th.

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                  • Progrssive_Jedi
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by KnickTillDeaTh
                    GGG didnt fight aggressive in the amateurs, he was a boxer puncher. GGG became an aggressive power puncher when he linked up with Sanchez professionally. So quite literally GGG has only fought this way for 33 fights not 400+. Also the amateurs are not an excepted measuring stick for how good a fighters chin is or isn't, for that matter neither is 32 of GGG's 33 opponents.

                    On top of that you are giving GGG to much credit for defense. Most of the time his opponents are running from him and punching while moving away due to the threat that GGG presents, which on its own will result in low accuracy, however when fighters actually punch GGG backs up straight which is not good defense. Fighters haven't had trouble finding him when they did punch, but it didnt really matter because the only fighter who had knock out power was Stevens, and GGG fought him from the outside, cautiously until the mid point of the fight when he began to close the distance. Which is the way I see this fight going. GGG ko Lemiuex in the 8th.
                    Although I agree that Abel strictly gave him that style, it wasn't when he turned pro, it was in 2010.

                    However, that is kinda my point. GGG has a varied skill set that goes beyond just aggressive.

                    He has a great counter jab.
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                    Because GGG is a pressure fighter, he needs to have a good jab, and he does. Not so much powerful jab, although it is, it's the intelligent use of it both offensively and defensively that limits his opponents power and opens up the offense. GGG will cover his opponent’s lead hand as he throws his jab. So while he uses his jab, it is not always in an offensive manner. It just always looks like it, keeping his opponent from knowing what is coming.

                    The jab and shoulder often redirects his opponent's throws, either past his head or they hit with a fraction of the power. Making it look like he is getting hit.

                    That's what I mean, and many of his opponents have attested too.

                    They say when you think you are landing, it's party after GGG has blunted the power.

                    GGG also uses a side-step, and subtle slips to angle off to his left or right, leading to devastating body shots or powerful uppercut.

                    In doing so he takes himself a position that gives him the advantage to to deliver the powerful left hook, which often does his opponent in.

                    Also, GGG switches stance while throwing power shots, keeping himself in balance.

                    It is actually a remarkable display by GGG, who shows he has the ability to end a fight quickly, but can be adept defensively too. What may look like GGG being reckless and off-balance, is all part of a superb aggressive offense and defense. He does it while being completely calm and controlled.

                    Not to mention how he cuts off the ring.

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                    • danceswithfire
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by doninlouisiana
                      So you are taking both Lemieux and Viloria? You could make some serious cash if you bet that way and both long shots win. I seriously doubt both win though, but good luck man.
                      Originally posted by Cinci Champ
                      u think so? i mean lemiuex has has the power to do it im just not sure hell be able to reach ggg. no chance ggg is as wreckless with lemieux as he is with opponents he knows cant really hurt him
                      nah, Im more GGG fan than a lemiuex fan but I like em both. im taking ggg by ko too, just lthink lemiex will catch GGG a few good ones too before its over

                      Viloria on the other hand has a much better chance to pull off the upset imo

                      will be a good fight weekend

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