Matthysse Never Winning a Title is Not Because of Politics......

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  • b00g13man
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    #71
    Can't disagree with the OP.

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    • -PBP-
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      #72
      Originally posted by New England
      lesser fighters, peterson for example, won "world titles" at 140 lbs.
      By beating the unified champion Amir Khan. What happened when Matthysse had a chance to become unified champion? He failed.

      One guy capitalized on opportunities, the other didn't. It's that simple.

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      • Fetta
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        #73
        Some just arent meant to be "champions"

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        • bojangles1987
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          #74
          Originally posted by The Big Dunn
          Dean come off it dude. Matts isn't with a small promotional outfit. I said since he signed with GBP.

          No offense, but he should've beaten Zab easy. He didn't. He failed just like Broner did with Porter. Matts was favored against Danny-but once he didn't get a KO he was in a long tough fight. he lost. Just like Broner did with Maidana.

          Yes, Broner just got gifted a title Saturday. Was it right that Broner coming off a loss won a vacant title over a guy that hadn't fought in 18 months. NO.

          Would it have been right for Lucas to jump over proven WW's and got shots at Floyd and Manny had he beaten Danny or Postol-No, but that was what would've happened and you nor ANY lucas diehard would have complained.

          politics got him shots, his lack of skills prevented him from winning.
          Politics did not ****ing get Matthysse shots. He won eliminators to get both his title shots, eliminators against fighters who were actually ranked 1 or 2 and in line themselves. He never once received a title shot just because he was Lucas Matthysse.

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            #75
            Originally posted by PBP.
            By beating the unified champion Amir Khan. What happened when Matthysse had a chance to become unified champion? He failed.

            One guy capitalized on opportunities, the other didn't. It's that simple.
            Yes and Lucas beat Peterson while Lamont had the damn belt. The WBC let GGG unify his interim belt but didn't with Matthysse. Disgusting. And Peterson admitted taking illegal testosterone before fighting Khan and he tested positive this scrapping the rematch.

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            • The Big Dunn
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              #76
              Originally posted by bojangles1987
              Politics did not ****ing get Matthysse shots. He won eliminators to get both his title shots, eliminators against fighters who were actually ranked 1 or 2 and in line themselves. He never once received a title shot just because he was Lucas Matthysse.
              SO his relationship with GBP/Haymon had no bearing on him getting opportunities? He was going to get a Morales shot FFS but he got sick, remember? wasn't Ajose made mandatory surprisingly at the last minute like right before Matts fought him?

              In Hindsight, he didn't get Petersen's belt because of politics. Had he lost, he would have kept his belt because of those same politics.

              He didn't get the same treatment as Broner or Canelo, no, but that doesn't mean he got no benefits from being aligned with GBP.

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              • Tom Cruise
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                #77
                Originally posted by PBP.
                By beating the unified champion Amir Khan. What happened when Matthysse had a chance to become unified champion? He failed.

                One guy capitalized on opportunities, the other didn't. It's that simple.
                He obliterated the IBF World Champion in 4 rounds. Boxing politics meant he wasnt able to claim the title.

                Simple as that.

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                • bojangles1987
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                  #78
                  Originally posted by The Big Dunn
                  SO his relationship with GBP/Haymon had no bearing on him getting opportunities? He was going to get a Morales shot FFS but he got sick, remember? wasn't Ajose made mandatory surprisingly at the last minute like right before Matts fought him?

                  In Hindsight, he didn't get Petersen's belt because of politics. Had he lost, he would have kept his belt because of those same politics.

                  He didn't get the same treatment as Broner or Canelo, no, but that doesn't mean he got no benefits from being aligned with GBP.
                  Ajose won an eliminator in September 2011 and Lucas beat him in September 2012 to become mandatory for the WBC.

                  You're pretending Lucas got shots without earning them and you know you're lying. He went through eliminators to earn them. He never got to lose a fight and then turn around and fight some nobody for a belt in his next fight.

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                  • The Big Dunn
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                    #79
                    Originally posted by bojangles1987
                    Ajose won an eliminator in September 2011 and Lucas beat him in September 2012 to become mandatory for the WBC.

                    You're pretending Lucas got shots without earning them and you know you're lying. He went through eliminators to earn them. He never got to lose a fight and then turn around and fight some nobody for a belt in his next fight.
                    No one is pretending anything. No, he didn't get the same treatment Broner did this past weekend. I have already stated that.

                    OK, that's what it was, ajose hadn't fought in about a year.

                    His affiliation with GBP got him chances. He didn't take advantage of those opportunities. Just because he didn't get the star treatment doesn't mean he didn't have political advantages.

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                    • New England
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                      #80
                      Originally posted by PBP.
                      By beating the unified champion Amir Khan. What happened when Matthysse had a chance to become unified champion? He failed.

                      One guy capitalized on opportunities, the other didn't. It's that simple.


                      he fought the guy that knocked khan out, actually. and that khan - peterson was highly controversial for a slew of reasons. an IBF rep was caught

                      so it is not "that simple." peterson's title was on the line in his next fight.


                      that peterson title wasn't on the line because of "not boxing politics?"

                      and hwne a lesser fighter than matthysse gets an easy shot at a title, is that because of boxing politics as well?

                      a loss to devion alexander wasn't for the title, but it certain'y was controversial. are you saying that losing a fight isn't going to affect your ability to fight for titles? or that the alexander decision, which came in his f#Cking hometown, wasn't "political?"


                      also, if you remember the khan fight, a man named mustafa ameen, who is an IBF affiliate, was caught on camera talking with judges [ridiculously illegal,] and then celebrating with team peterson in the ring after the fight [ridiculously ******.]
                      Last edited by New England; 10-07-2015, 02:57 PM.

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