Comments Thread For: GGG's Coach: Liar Ward Needs To Become Relevant Again

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Didn't he just sign a 3 fight deal with HBO at lhw ? Duva is already on record saying negotiations are going well why is most that people forget this ?

That deal is yet to be finalized as Ward refuses to accept the list of fighters proposed by HBO. Apparently he wants to continue to fight against people the same quality as Smith and HBO are demanding top level fights.

In other words... HBO have put him on the same notice as they put Cotto. Fight the best or find somewhere else to fight. Looks like Ward will be back on BET before we know it.

[hitking]

Let Ward fight at Oracle arena on BET and beg for PPV money for being on the undercard. HBO has made GGG a big time attraction while Ward has taken years off and fought nobody since winning that super 6 tourney. GGG coach is right Ward needs to become relevant again and stop lying.

This post is completely ridiculous on so many levels. And in a nutshell, sums up the idiocy of these newbie fight fans that became "hardcore" followers during the Floyd-Manny drama.

Fun fact. The fight that arguably became the most important fight of the era prior to Floyd-Manny was Jones-Hopkins. They are clearly the best fighters of that era. A lotta people consider them 1a and 1b. Hopkins' supporters point to his longevity and how long he's outlasted Roy as a top fighter. Roy's supporters point to the head-2-head match-up. The fun fact is, that fight was on a Rid**** Bowe undercard. And there was a day in time when it was far from unusual to see elite fighters fighting on PPV undercards.

Either way, there's ZERO logical explination that can be made as to why a so called hardcore fight fan doesn't wanna see Ward-GGG. There's no logical explination that can be made by a so called hardcore fight fan that GGG should prioritise fights with bums like Lemieux and the Lee-Saunders winner over Ward. And the only people that would rather see GGG take those fights are his worshippers that KNOW Ward is a stylistic nightmare for Gennady. And they simply wanna ride hype train. And have no real interest in this guy legitimizing the hype.

[tiliheels]

That deal is yet to be finalized as Ward refuses to accept the list of fighters proposed by HBO. Apparently he wants to continue to fight against people the same quality as Smith and HBO are demanding top level fights.

In other words... HBO have put him on the same notice as they put Cotto. Fight the best or find somewhere else to fight. Looks like Ward will be back on BET before we know it.

how dare you ask ward to fight anyone but u wont accept him fightin your guy??...who cares who he fights?...he's nobody remember? nobody likes him..it will be boring....why do u ****ing care??
and how dare u blatantly lie lik eu know wat the hell u are talkin about lol...u have no sources to prove this and u're spewing chatroom BS to mind bent ppl

[Bullrider]

People need to stop these silly discussions. It's getting old. BOTH fighters appear to be avoiding the fight. There's no sense in prolonging the arguments.

[Progrssive_Jedi]

This post is completely ridiculous on so many levels. And in a nutshell, sums up the idiocy of these newbie fight fans that became "hardcore" followers during the Floyd-Manny drama.

Fun fact. The fight that arguably became the most important fight of the era prior to Floyd-Manny was Jones-Hopkins. They are clearly the best fighters of that era. A lotta people consider them 1a and 1b. Hopkins' supporters point to his longevity and how long he's outlasted Roy as a top fighter. Roy's supporters point to the head-2-head match-up. The fun fact is, that fight was on a Rid**** Bowe undercard. And there was a day in time when it was far from unusual to see elite fighters fighting on PPV undercards.

Either way, there's ZERO logical explination that can be made as to why a so called hardcore fight fan doesn't wanna see Ward-GGG. There's no logical explination that can be made by a so called hardcore fight fan that GGG should prioritise fights with bums like Lemieux and the Lee-Saunders winner over Ward. And the only people that would rather see GGG take those fights are his worshippers that KNOW Ward is a stylistic nightmare for Gennady. And they simply wanna ride hype train. And have no real interest in this guy legitimizing the hype.

That's where it's goes astray. GGG doesn't have to go up to fight Ward now, at Wards and the haters call, to prove he is good.

There is work to do.

caring about andre ward has nothing to do with him being a p4p/legacy fight for GGG...this is not about my feelings..this is about being a fan..

u just said u dont care about a p4p fight...tell me again why u're on boxingscene...

You all seem to think if GGG doesn't go up to SMW now, before unifying, before getting MW lineal, before breaking B-hops record, then somehow he isn't gonna be good.

That's BS. GGG is being held back by politics, and he is close to finally breaking through.

Ward isn't doing jack but talking.

but i bet u're the type guys that say i wanna see floyd fight a true boxer like lara....man stop playing me like im dumb..this fight can be highly drama filled u just dont see your guy winning..

The fight could be good, but GGG doesn't need him.

GGG is on precipice of breaking through the roadblocks that held him back.

And frankly, Cotto and Canelo need dealt with.

They are fighting to be MW champ after all.

[Barcham]

People need to stop these silly discussions. It's getting old. BOTH fighters appear to be avoiding the fight. There's no sense in prolonging the arguments.

You cannot avoid a fight that is not in your weight division. Golovkin is focused on unifying the Middleweight titles. Ward is not a MW, he is currently not even a SMW as his last fight was at LHW. How on earth can anyone say that fighting Ward will advance Golovkin in his goal to unify all the MW titles? Is Ward going to drop to 160 and take the titles from Lee and Cotto-Canelo to give GGG a valid reason to fight him?

Let Golovkin achieve his goal of unification. After the Lemieux fight, assuming he wins, he has a guarantee against the Cotto-Canelo winner. After that fight, it is pretty much a certainty that Lee will be more than willing to fight him in a fight to determine the undisputed MW champion. It will be the biggest title fight in boxing since Hopkins became the first to achieve the feat.

To think that there is ANY reason at all to bypass the chance of making boxing history to fight Ward, a fighter who is not even close to being relevant in the sport today, a fighter who is not a middleweight and brings no MW title to the party, a fighter who has nothing at all to offer to advance GGG's goal of making boxing history, is beyond ******. It is beyond foolish. It is borderline insane.

[OnePunch]

but i bet u're the type guys that say i wanna see floyd fight a true boxer like lara....man stop playing me like im dumb..this fight can be highly drama filled u just dont see your guy winning..

Sorry to bust your bubble, but I dont want to see Lara against Floyd or anyone else for that matter.

And again, whether GGG wins or loses that fight, how is my life affected? I still have to go to work on Monday no matter the outcome.....

[robbyheartbaby]

I don't care anymore, I would rather see GGG unify the middleweight division and see Ward fight Kovalev.

[cupocity303]

Let me know when GGG steps up in class before they call anyone a liar ..Like you don't have an agenda trying to discredit someone who is as accomplished as much as Ward while trying to celebrate a guy who is just feasting on b level fighter after b level fighter !

Ok, so why is the P4P # 2 fighter and considered one of the most skilled boxers in the world even interested in facing a mere 160 pound TITLE HOLDER (not even the real champ) who has feasted on B-level opposition?

It's one thing to fight a smaller guy from a division below who is a great and accomplished champion, but to want to fight a mere Title holder? Why is the P4P # 2 best fighter Andre Ward not showing this same enthusiasm when it comes to Kovalev? That's three title for him to win, and become a 2-division champion. What does the P4P # 2 best fighter stand to gain by beating a 160 pound Paper Champ?

See the focus should not be on GGG. Golovkin is and has been an active Middleweight, and is now trying to put the finishing touches to his Middleweight run by unifying all the belts. The focus should be on Andre Ward who already conquered the 168 pound division and has more than likely outgrown it physically. Why is he still sniffing around for money fights at 168? MOVE UP, take a risk and challenge yourself.

[hitking]

That's where it's goes astray. GGG doesn't have to go up to fight Ward now, at Wards and the haters call, to prove he is good.

There is work to do.

What work is there to do? Fight a bunch of C level beltholders? Lemieux has been KO'd by Rubio, who's a bum. He was outpointed by a completely washed up Alcine, who wasn't that good in his prime. Andy Lee has been KO'd by Chavez Jr. Prior to thst he was KO'd by Brian flip'n Vera. Cotto was washed up, according to many of you, when Floyd fought him 3yrs ago. How is an older version of him a defining fight for a so called elite fighter. Canelo was called overrated by many of you after the Floyd fight? How all of a suddem is he a defining fight for a so called elite fighter? I know a lotta GGG's fans are newbies. So maybe y'all don't realize that just because you put "Unification Fight" on the fight poster. Doesn't erase the fact that one of the participants has proven beatable by C level competition. But personally, I think many of y'all know he's fighting bums. And are trying to glorify it with all this bull**** unification talk. You can't fool seasoned fight fans. You can scream "unification" all you want. GGG is fighting bums. And appears to have no interest in fighting the biggest threat out there to him.