How about we give Postol some credit instead of degrading Matthysse?

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  • SalimShady1212
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    #61
    Originally posted by soul_survivor
    It's not a backhanded compliment at all Postol had the superior skill set that night but he won because Matthysse quit. If it had gone to points, Postol still would have won imo. But the facts are as follows, matthysse quit.
    That's all I need to see

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    • saintpat
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      #62
      Originally posted by Salim_Shady
      Can you not comprehend basic English? A tatic = a strategy, even Freddie Roach said post fight the plan was to clinch on top of Lucas and push him to the ground when he comes in as he was dangerous on the inside. The tactics were too clinch in order to smother Lucas' work. It wasn't pretty but it was effective. i.e. watch every Klitschko fight (most of them are against smaller opponents), he did the exact same thing to Povetkin.
      I comprehend what I see, which is that Lucas kept wrapping his left arm around the guy's waist and ducking his head under the armpit. He has no clue how to fight inside, which makes it curious that HIS tactics were aimed at getting to a distance that nullified his own abilities.

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      • Fetta
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        #63
        I knew after Molina that Lucas wasnt all he was hyped up to be but Postol i didnt know to much about but good win for him.

        New player in the sport

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        • SalimShady1212
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          #64
          Originally posted by saintpat
          I comprehend what I see, which is that Lucas kept wrapping his left arm around the guy's waist and ducking his head under the armpit. He has no clue how to fight inside, which makes it curious that HIS tactics were aimed at getting to a distance that nullified his own abilities.
          Er...that was Postol successfully smothering Lucas' work not allowing him to fight inside. Freddie said Lucas is dangerous on the inside so smother him or stay away. I think you need to watch more boxing or get in the ring and experience it yourself. In the majority of my amateur bouts I'm the shorter guy and there's nothing I hate more than a lanky guy with a great jab.

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          • The Big Dunn
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            #65
            Originally posted by Fetta
            I knew after Molina that Lucas wasnt all he was hyped up to be but Postol i didnt know to much about but good win for him.

            New player in the sport
            Most Lucas fans didn't know a thing about Postol either Fetta. They saw his low KO total and figured, he can't KO lucas so he can't win.

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            • soul_survivor
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              #66
              Originally posted by Salim_Shady
              That's all I need to see
              am I lying?

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              • Build That Wall
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                #67
                Originally posted by Salim_Shady
                Lucas said training camp went very well however Postol frustrated him and made him lose his head. Postol was the better fighter on the night and no matter how much you dislike his tactics they were effective and he actually stopped the guy who was undoubtedly top 2 in the division. (Klitschko did the same thing to Povetkin but worse).

                All the threads seem to be "Lucas is a hype job", "Lucas quit"...how about Postol is a dangerous mofo. He is the 140 Klitschko and with his size he will trouble anyone. No one else fights in his unique manner and I'm confident no other 140lber except maybe Imam and Crawford would be able to deal/compete with Lucas as effectively.

                Punch Stats:
                PUNCHES: MATTHYSSE /POSTOL
                Landed: 96 /113
                Thrown: 281 /509
                Percent: 34% /22%
                -- Courtesy of CompuBox

                Postol threw 228 more and landed 17 more. Postol landed 36 out of 267 jabs and 77 of 242 power shots, Lucas landed 14 of 83 jabs and 82 of 198 power shots. Lucas' defence is not as bad as some people like to make out to be.


                Edit: Just rewatched the fight, Matthysse really didn't show too much physical signs of decline; he broke mentally. Postol was a superior boxer and he frustrated Lucas. And again Lucas' team showed that they are the devil's spawn; absolute trash. All they do is say "box him, land the big punch and you will KO him". They are useless, the instructions are so vague that Lucas has to pretty much make his own game plan as the fight goes on. They don't have a plan B or C either. Matthysse's sister questioned his corner a couple of days ago and pretty much said Lucas needs to completely change his team

                Lucas quit. Nuff Said

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                • Mexican_Puppet
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                  #68
                  Originally posted by New England
                  how does the only guy to stop peterson get called a hype job?
                  And who the **** is PEDerson? Another normal fighter, the same Danny is not something great....


                  Originally posted by Salim_Shady
                  Mate you've never liked Lucas, the subliminal bias is clear as day.
                  Stop crying, man. Lucas it's a ****in normal fighter with a lot of power, but he es limited, doesn't have heart and has a questionable jaw.

                  Originally posted by The Big Dunn
                  Lucas is limited and can't defend so if he doesn't get a KO he finds himself in trouble when he shouldn't be IE the Provo fight. HIs limitations are what makes his fights exciting.

                  Why would anyone celebrate that?


                  This it's true.

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                  • SalimShady1212
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by Mexican_Puppet
                    And who the **** is PEDerson? Another normal fighter, the same Danny is not something great....




                    Stop crying, man. Lucas it's a ****in normal fighter with a lot of power, but he es limited, doesn't have heart and has a questionable jaw.





                    This it's true.
                    He's been in the top 5 of the division for literally 4-5 years, he is a very good fighter. If you think normal fighters achieve such things then YDKSAB. Certainly just a puppet.

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                      #70
                      César Cuenca is TBE. The real Argentine monster of this era.

                      48-0 coming for the 49 next month. #TheNewMarciano

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