Comments Thread For: HBO, Showtime 10/3 Telecasts Produce Meager Ratings

[bigdunny1]

Dude, please stop. The 3 most watched fights have been the ones I listed, Canelo/kirkland is 4th.

You are right, Wilder's numbers were a sharp decline from the 1st PBC fight on NBC.

You have to look at each network ratings separately. The numbers on NBC , dropping. Numbers on ESPN, going up. Bounce-strong for that netwokr. SPikeTV-flucuating. CBS-dropping.

I get you desperately WANT Haymon/PBC to fail. That want doesn't make it true across the board.

How can those be higher when Wilder's last did less then the 2.1 rating that Canelo did on HBO which is in less homes then NBC?

Wilder did a 1.6
http://www.sportsmediawatch.com/2015...ernights-down/

Canelo did over 2.1
http://www.boxingscene.com/alvarez-k...ut-2006--90939

With the Exception of 1 ESPN card the Leo Santa Cruz fight the ESPN ratings have been bad. CBS, NBC have gotten worse each month. FoxSports1 have been terrible. Across the board with the exception of a card or 2 the PBC ratings have steadily declined since the debut. Not a good sign and likely the reason you see Haymon taking a ton of fights back on Showtime because he loses money on these PBC cards.

[Fetta]

How can those be higher when Wilder's last did less then the 2.1 rating that Canelo did on HBO which is in less homes then NBC?

Wilder did a 1.6
http://www.sportsmediawatch.com/2015...ernights-down/

Canelo did over 2.1
http://www.boxingscene.com/alvarez-k...ut-2006--90939

With the Exception of 1 ESPN card the Leo Santa Cruz fight the ESPN ratings have been bad. CBS, NBC have gotten worse each month. FoxSports1 have been terrible. Across the board with the exception of a card or 2 the PBC ratings have steadily declined since the debut. Not a good sign and likely the reason you see Haymon taking a ton of fights back on Showtime because he loses money on these PBC cards.

Wilder card did 2.3 and canelo had lead in of floyd/pac. But keep trying

[bigdunny1]

You have posted several dozen times that you do not watch Haymon fights, yet you are complaining they are on when HBO fights are on.

WHy are you so invested in HBO ratings?

I've never said I don't watch Haymon fights. Not ever. I said if it's a terrible mismatch fight I won't watch. If it's a competive fight I will watch it no matter the network or man putting it together. But sadly those fights from Haymon are more the exception then rule which is why you have been seeing terrible ratings for these PBC cards to the point that he is now running back to showtime to get them to pay for these fights rather then him and PBC investors overpaying for mismatch fights that lose millions of dollars on Netork and Cable TV.

[The Big Dunn]

How can those be higher when Wilder's last did less then the 2.1 rating that Canelo did on HBO which is in less homes then NBC?

Wilder did a 1.6
http://www.sportsmediawatch.com/2015...ernights-down/

Canelo did over 2.1
http://www.boxingscene.com/alvarez-k...ut-2006--90939

With the Exception of 1 ESPN card the Leo Santa Cruz fight the ESPN ratings have been bad. CBS, NBC have gotten worse each month. FoxSports1 have been terrible. Across the board with the exception of a card or 2 the PBC ratings have steadily declined since the debut. Not a good sign and likely the reason you see Haymon taking a ton of fights back on Showtime because he loses money on these PBC cards.

I said most watched, not got the higher rating.

showtime looks to have made the decision to air more fights during the last quarter to compete with HBO.

Again you need to understand things in context. On Bounce, PBC is one of their most watched shows. Bounce is a new network not in a lot of homes. So yeah, we see the rating and it sucks. Execs see it and want more. I am not saying this for all shows, just bounce.

On espn, they are surely happy as the PBC cards have done well. On NBC, I'd agree they are not pleased that numbers keep dropping.

[Fetta]

I said most watched, not got the higher rating.

showtime looks to have made the decision to air more fights during the last quarter to compete with HBO.

Again you need to understand things in context. On Bounce, PBC is one of their most watched shows. Bounce is a new network not in a lot of homes. So yeah, we see the rating and it sucks. Execs see it and want more. I am not saying this for all shows, just bounce.

On espn, they are surely happy as the PBC cards have done well. On NBC, I'd agree they are not pleased that numbers keep dropping.

Hes the biggest network fanboy on here and isnt even a fan of the sport. Hes a follower who doesnt go beyond the "glory fighters". Let him cry cause he truly believed HBO would crush Showtime and it didnt

[Lou Cipher]

hahahaha Adrian Loser fails again

[Pigeons]

How can those be higher when Wilder's last did less then the 2.1 rating that Canelo did on HBO which is in less homes then NBC?

Wilder did a 1.6
http://www.sportsmediawatch.com/2015...ernights-down/

Canelo did over 2.1
http://www.boxingscene.com/alvarez-k...ut-2006--90939

With the Exception of 1 ESPN card the Leo Santa Cruz fight the ESPN ratings have been bad. CBS, NBC have gotten worse each month. FoxSports1 have been terrible. Across the board with the exception of a card or 2 the PBC ratings have steadily declined since the debut. Not a good sign and likely the reason you see Haymon taking a ton of fights back on Showtime because he loses money on these PBC cards.

This mother ****er's comparing a rating to amount of viewers.

[maguirre]

Don't know what's so strange about this. They split the viewers in half. The interest on both HBO/SHO cards have almost the same level of moderate intensity.

Just imagine if it's Broner vs Mathysse.

[The Big Dunn]

I've never said I don't watch Haymon fights. Not ever. I said if it's a terrible mismatch fight I won't watch. If it's a competive fight I will watch it no matter the network or man putting it together. But sadly those fights from Haymon are more the exception then rule which is why you have been seeing terrible ratings for these PBC cards to the point that he is now running back to showtime to get them to pay for these fights rather then him and PBC investors overpaying for mismatch fights that lose millions of dollars on Netork and Cable TV.

You sure dude? Ok you dance around it by saying you only watch competitive fights then say that haymon has all mismatches. So you are saying it in a passive aggressive way.

Look dude, your posts show that you are upset that PBC cut into HBO's ratings. You are entitled to feel how you feel but that is really pathetic.

[doninlouisiana]

The big difference that no one is talking about is that
Haymon tries to put on showcase fights and than you get robberies like cherry getting shafted 117-111. That was a joke.

Broner fought another tune up off a layoff. Get broner in real fights. Well. His lack luster rating will call for that.

Hbo is putting on competitive fights in which the underdog scores a damaging ko.

Hbo is buliding fighters. Showtime and pbc are running showcase robberies

It sure seems that way. You can almost guarantee if a Haymon fighter is being soundly beat on viewers cards, it seems the very best the non Haymon fighter can hope for in a decision is a draw. Its almost like one judge is on the money, say 117-111 (Non Haymon) where there are two that
see a draw 114-114. Again very fishy in many of the decisions on Haymon's cards.