Broner deserves recognition as youngest four division world champion ever.

[techliam]

didn't Garcia vacate his belts and thus is no longer recognized as super champion?

That probably happened. You never know with the WBA though, that was my point. How Ward still has his title is beyond me

Benevidez should have been upgraded to WBA champion after both Vargas and Garcia vacated, yet he wasn't. This should have happened in July when both titles were vacated. Instead, Khabib seemed to rise the rankings.

Khabib gained 5 ranks out of nowhere, whereas rank 6 Herrera gained nothing from an actual win over Lundy.

Make of that what you will

[boxinghead530]

who cares who he fought,hes a 4 weight champ where u like it or not

Call it what you want but nobody will remember or recognize the guys he won the 4 titles from because they are all bums. His titles were all gift wrapped. If you look at past great like Floyd, Oscar, or SRL you recognize the guys they won their titles from. Not Broner, he won titles(not World championships) from legit bums.

[Luilun]

When De La Hoya won the WBO title in 1994, it was not recognized by the public or any of the other organizations as a major title. So by the time De La Hoya had won a recognized title in four divisions, he was 28.

Broner at 26 has won legit recognized world championships in four divisions. No interim titles, no "regular" titles in a division with a super champion, etc.

Broner may have his fair share of detractors, but I don't think this accomplishment should be overlooked. There's only been around a dozen four division champions in boxing history if you ignore interim titles, secondary titles, WBO titles held in the 90s, etc.

So give the guy his deserved props. Being the youngest four division world champion in history is nothing to sneeze at, not to mention even being a four division champion at all. Very few men in the history of the sport have reached the pinnacle of four different divisions.

The people Broner won the titles at 140 and 147 and probably 135 would not be champions back in the days of Delahoya

[Da Boxer]

Broner is a disgrace, that belt is a gift, coming from a lose yet fighting for a title? yeah I think Im gonna vomit

Broner is a joke. Put him in the ring with Imam, no promoter issues, no excuses. Dude gets his ass whooped that's why he called out fricking Theophane, decent fighter although also a fighter with 6 losses.

Broner = Joke of boxing

[Da Boxer]

]Call it what you want but nobody will remember or recognize the guys he won the 4 titles from because they are all bums. His titles were all gift wrapped. [/B]If you look at past great like Floyd, Oscar, or SRL you recognize the guys they won their titles from. Not Broner, he won titles(not World championships) from legit bums.

1000000000000000000000% truth!

Broner = Joke of boxing

[12TRIBEsRiSe]

Call it what you want but nobody will remember or recognize the guys he won the 4 titles from because they are all bums. His titles were all gift wrapped. If you look at past great like Floyd, Oscar, or SRL you recognize the guys they won their titles from. Not Broner, he won titles(not World championships) from legit bums.

that can always be debated and the use of the word bum amongst professional fighters gets thrown around a little too much, they definitely were not greats but some were pretty good... but hes the youngest 4 division world champ at the end of the day, hes an okay fighter with talent and I don't see him being great like the fighters uve listed but its just the truth, hes the youngest one.

[The Big Dunn]

That probably happened. You never know with the WBA though, that was my point. How Ward still has his title is beyond me

Benevidez should have been upgraded to WBA champion after both Vargas and Garcia vacated, yet he wasn't. This should have happened in July when both titles were vacated. Instead, Khabib seemed to rise the rankings.

Khabib gained 5 ranks out of nowhere, whereas rank 6 Herrera gained nothing from an actual win over Lundy.

Make of that what you will

we know certain promoters/managers get special treatment from certain sanctioning bodies.

Broner getting this title fight is no more disgraceful than Manny/Margs at 151. Once Danny vacated, you knew Haymon was going to get Broner a title fight no matter what.

Not fair, but its how the game is being played now.

[12TRIBEsRiSe]

The people Broner won the titles at 140 and 147 and probably 135 would not be champions back in the days of Delahoya

to bad he was born when he was born right?

[techliam]

we know certain promoters/managers get special treatment from certain sanctioning bodies.

Broner getting this title fight is no more disgraceful than Manny/Margs at 151. Once Danny vacated, you knew Haymon was going to get Broner a title fight no matter what.

Not fair, but its how the game is being played now.

Of course

It means we can effectively look at the WBA/Haymon the same way we look at WBO/Top Rank - compromised.

Wouldn't you agree it makes it a lot more difficult celebrating Broner's achievement knowing this then?

[The Big Dunn]

Of course

It means we can effectively look at the WBA/Haymon the same way we look at WBO/Top Rank - compromised.

Wouldn't you agree it makes it a lot more difficult celebrating Broner's achievement knowing this then?

Yes and no. I am not one that has emphasized titles in multiple divisions as a measure of greatness because I know that often 1 or more of the title wins comes against crap comp or is set up by the promoter.

In that respect, I do not celebrate.

BUT-and we've discussed this a bit before so you know where I'm going-

For all the people that do celebrate it, they should do the same with Broner as he is no different than anyone with a powerful promoter/manager-they get title fights easier.
His belts are as worthless/worth the same as any other fighters IMO.