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  • M Bison
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    #41
    Originally posted by John Locke
    wtf? Amazing levels of ******ation are on display here.

    Love how you have to mention the 154 guys to make it seem like 160 is stacked.
    Bu bu bu the WW division has Kell Brook and Amir Khan must protect that division omg its stacked
    You know soon as both of these guys get KOed you will be onto the next division smeering your **** all over another fighter you 'support' and this is your average British boxing fan.

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      #42
      Originally posted by John Locke
      These Golovkin guys are among the top 5 most ******ed fans in all sport, not just boxing. Middleweight being a weak weight class isn't really stain on Golovkin, it's not his fault and he's clearly a level above those guys and an A level fighter. But these fangirls are so paranoid and insecure they have to make it seem like he's competing in some insanely competitive weight class. ****ing weirdos.
      D'awww did someone upset the wittle baby

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      • John Locke
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        #43
        Originally posted by Red Cyclone
        Translation us Brits have no real hope at MW division since Martin Murray got absolutely battered and bruised a guy who has never been stopped and likely never dropped in his entire career was made to look terrible, Roy Jones Jr was doing the same thing in his era of dominance but you fantards I know you like to be different just like when Roy was dominating you'd have been saying he's fighting nobodies and bums but atleast you dumbasses are consistent.
        The RJJ comparison is so embarrassing and inaccurate I won't bother addressing, please do some research before talking about things you don't know well enough.

        Also who I a fantard of?

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        • John Locke
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          #44
          I'm a big Golovkin fan btw, it's just that the majority of his fans are a bunch of deluded, double standard mongrels.

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            #45
            Originally posted by John Locke
            These Golovkin guys are among the top 5 most ******ed fans in all sport, not just boxing. Middleweight being a weak weight class isn't really stain on Golovkin, it's not his fault and he's clearly a level above those guys and an A level fighter. But these fangirls are so paranoid and insecure they have to make it seem like he's competing in some insanely competitive weight class. ****ing weirdos.

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            • John Locke
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              #46
              Originally posted by Golovkin
              You're an exception my friend

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              • The Problem Child
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                #47
                Originally posted by John Locke
                You're an exception my friend

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Freedom.
                  Currently the welterweight era is weak.

                  Manny Pacquiao was a great fighter in his day, but is old and faded. He's really a blown-up flyweight who was at his best at the smaller weights from flyweight to super lightweight.

                  Keith Thurman is limited and overrated. He struggled against old guys like age 40 Bundu, shot Guerrero.

                  I like Shawn Porter, he's entertaining, a slugger like Curtis Stevens.

                  Amir Khan is a weak-chinned joke.

                  Feather-fisted Tim Bradley couldn't crack an egg and has been awarded some undeserved decisions.

                  Paulie Malignaggi is a shot old boxer.

                  Kell Brook seems to be the only bona fide top fighter in the division right now.
                  Shawn porter entertaining. Thats as far as i got

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                  • SilverMiles
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by John Locke
                    What do you mean who am I to say who has skills?

                    Lets be honest, if Lemieux wasn't a GGG opponent, you boys would be calling him a face first robot or something. He's a C+ fighter with good power. I don't consider Cotto a real middleweight and I don't consider Canelo a full time middleweight yet, but those guys are skilled. Quillin and Jacobs probably wouldn't make the top 10 at welterweight P4P.

                    Like I said nobody has ever considered Pauli a top welterweight. Ever.
                    I mean what gives you the right to called obviously skilled pro fighter non-skilled.

                    And I think Lemule is hard hitting B+ fighter. If you want to act like the guy isn't special that's on you but most people with eyes can see he has very rare qualities.

                    Cotto and Canelo are fighting at middleweight, when they back down than I will consider them Jr.

                    And you're overrating welterweight, Paulie, Gurrereo, and Berto have been ranked top ten all at the same time at one point and none of them are world beaters.

                    Welter is a great division but only a fool would think the fighters there are levels above the fighters at middleweight.

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                    • John Locke
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by SilverMiles
                      I mean what gives you the right to called obviously skilled pro fighter non-skilled.

                      And I think Lemule is hard hitting B+ fighter. If you want to act like the guy isn't special that's on you but most people with eyes can see he has very rare qualities.

                      Cotto and Canelo are fighting at middleweight, when they back down than I will consider them Jr.

                      And you're overrating welterweight, Paulie, Gurrereo, and Berto have been ranked top ten all at the same time at one point and none of them are world beaters.

                      Welter is a great division but only a fool would think the fighters there are levels above the fighters at middleweight.
                      The same thing that gives everyone else on here the right to express an opinion. I'm not disrespecting those boys, there's nothing wrong with pointing out that some fighters are less skilled than others.

                      Technically Cotto and Canelo are fighting at middleweight and if you wanna be pedantic and call them middleweights, then whatever, but you get my point.

                      I wouldn't say being ranked top 10 necessarily means anything, they were top 10 when the weight class wasn't as strong as it is now, they've never really been considered top fighters.

                      The current welterweight division is absolute miles ahead of middleweight, it's not even up for debate really.

                      The current welterweight top 10 looks something like this:

                      Pac, Thurman, Brook, Porter, Bradley, Khan, Danny, Maidana, Chaves, Spence

                      There's one A level guy there, with potentially 3-4 more breaking into the A class. What about middleweight? Other than Golovkin, which standout guys are there?

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