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  • Left Hook Tua
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    #111
    Originally posted by Reloaded
    I agree with all of this Im glad you became real for a change , that other BS you wrote holds no water .
    yawn.

    if you want to believe hatton, mosley or cotto floyd fought was somehow superior. whatever. don't care.

    everybody has bias.

    the trick is to have your opinion influence your bias and not vice versa.

    i bet you if you flipped pac-floyd when they fought those guys you'd change your tune.

    me i'd still say the same.

    no difference between either mosley and hatton. barely a year apart.

    cotto at 147 is better than 154 cotto.

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    • Reloaded
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      #112
      Originally posted by Left Hook Tua
      yawn.

      if you want to believe hatton, mosley or cotto floyd fought was somehow superior. whatever. don't care.

      everybody has bias.

      the trick is to have your opinion influence your bias and not vice versa.

      i bet you if you flipped pac-floyd when they fought those guys you'd change your tune.

      me i'd still say the same.

      no difference between either mosley and hatton. barely a year apart.

      cotto at 147 is better than 154 cotto.
      The trick is to be able to back up what you say with facts that support it , you cant .

      As an example you said 147 Cotto is better than 154 to supposedly win your argument , thats not what went on , it was 145 Cotto coming of a really bad beating that had a big effect on his mind , on top of this he complained about being weight drained , now add to this the fact he climbed back on the horse and won a 154 WT then he beat his own bogeyman in Margarito which took the monkey of his back , Cotto was reborn after that fight , its common knowledge he is as strong as a bull at 154 , with a 154 title Manny called him out and then refused to fight him at 154 its same guy right , too fck it is and Manny knows it , Floyd took that very fight and won , Floyd also went on beat Manny .

      No matter how you try to lose the mitigating circumstances surrounding these fights like they mean nothing , in actual fact they mean everything , no 2 nights are the same there is always differences and the differences in versions of the guys Floyd beat is a world away from the versions Manny beat .

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      • HanzGruber
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        #113
        Originally posted by PAC-BOY
        Boxers have been taking dives for years. You think no fighter takes a dive? lol With all the cash behind the scenes and all the pockets getting greased you'd have to be seriously naive to not think Floyd, who never leaves Vegas, who always has the same judges in his fights and always same ref wouldnt (with Haymon) pay off a fighter to make him look good and win? Not just for one fight but give that fighter more big money fights later too as a guarantee

        You think Berto didnt take a payday? *** im not buying the whole Manny Floyd bullshlt. That fight screams "rigged"! By you saying..."give me a break", entertains the notion that you think all fights are on the up and up. lmaoooo

        Youve never seen a bad decision? A complete robbery? Lennox Lewis said it best when he called Boxing, "Politricks" clowning the defintion of Politics in the sport of Boxing. Not all fights or fighters are down. Hence the reason some fights cant wont and dont get made! Wake up bro, this is the real world. We dont slip on banana peals out here.
        Who cares if he doesn't leave Vegas, it's the ***ing fight capital. You talking about paying off judges but what fights of his can you even find where a large amount of people think he lost besides vs jlc? Paying off judges...yet beats everyone 10-2 seems legit

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        • Cinci Champ
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          #114
          Originally posted by PAC-BOY
          Boxers have been taking dives for years. You think no fighter takes a dive? lol With all the cash behind the scenes and all the pockets getting greased you'd have to be seriously naive to not think Floyd, who never leaves Vegas, who always has the same judges in his fights and always same ref wouldnt (with Haymon) pay off a fighter to make him look good and win? Not just for one fight but give that fighter more big money fights later too as a guarantee

          You think Berto didnt take a payday? *** im not buying the whole Manny Floyd bullshlt. That fight screams "rigged"! By you saying..."give me a break", entertains the notion that you think all fights are on the up and up. lmaoooo

          Youve never seen a bad decision? A complete robbery? Lennox Lewis said it best when he called Boxing, "Politricks" clowning the defintion of Politics in the sport of Boxing. Not all fights or fighters are down. Hence the reason some fights cant wont and dont get made! Wake up bro, this is the real world. We dont slip on banana peals out here.
          no i dont think any of those fighters took a dive and there is really nothing to suggest they did. im sorry i know ur the number 1 floyd hater but this is a bit much and ur selling mayweather way way short there would be knockouts if that were the case

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          • b d w
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            #115
            Originally posted by LarryXXX
            facts.............
            If Ray Leonard or Ray Robinson fought the exact same opponents as Floyd they'd have the exact same number of wins except they'd all be knockouts.

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            • big_james10
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              #116
              Originally posted by LarryXXX
              facts.............
              Very good comparisons. This type of comparison is one of the few ways that yoi can actually lgimitately compare great figthers from different eras.

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              • Reloaded
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                #117
                Originally posted by b d w
                If Ray Leonard or Ray Robinson fought the exact same opponents as Floyd they'd have the exact same number of wins except they'd all be knockouts.
                Did they KO all their opponents , I dont think they did and many were not near the class of Floyds resume , you guys just blurt out crap that has no weight and you think sounds good , its all about trying to lower Floyd at any cost its just so pathetic .

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                • Syf
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                  #118
                  Originally posted by LarryXXX
                  facts.............
                  Did he figure in repeat opponents? Why didn't he figure out to 49?

                  Is it becaussse....

                  Marciano #49 opponent total Wins 1376

                  May #49 opponent Wins total wind 1345?

                  I didn't figure in repeat opponents. Just started where dude left off. Maidana would have helped Floyd a lil. But then again, jersey Joe would have helped marciano.. aND ezzard charles. A whopping 150 or so extra wins. I'm guessing the dude factored in repeat opponents so lol

                  Multiple world championships and division titles don't mean nothing at Marciano's weight class and era.
                  Last edited by Syf; 10-02-2015, 11:38 PM.

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                  • Syf
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                    #119
                    Originally posted by big_james10
                    Very good comparisons. This type of comparison is one of the few ways that yoi can actually lgimitately compare great figthers from different eras.
                    Why didn't he go to 49 doe

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                      #120
                      Originally posted by dirty fingers
                      It's funny Deontay has gone down in competition after the Charlie Z fight.
                      He's still recovering from that thunderous charlie z bodyshot

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