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  • Larry the boss
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    #41
    Originally posted by bigdunny1
    The card has the number 1 and number 2 P4P best active fighters in the world on the same PPV

    http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id...takes-top-spot

    And 2 Middleweight champs and both are top 5 ranked in their division by every credible source. GGG the recognized best middleweight in the world in a unification against another world champ who is on everyone's top 5 and both are knockout artists. GGG is not fighting a unnamed unranked bum like you have seen all year long on PBC. Gonazlez facing Villoria again top 5 ranked in his weight class. You trying way to hard and making a fool out yourself. Both are much better fights then 95% of the crap PBC has put out this year.

    FYI The problem with Mayweather vs Berto was NOT the undercard. It was the crap fest main event with Mayweather fighting a bum in Berto who nobody considers a top 10 welterweight or credible opponent. You don't buy a PPV for the undercard you buy it for the main event the undercard is like the cherries on top of the sunday. But cherries on top a crap sandwich is still a crap sandwich.
    That bums resume is better then Lemiuex and GGG's

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    • sugar ray lenrd
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      #42
      Originally posted by pugil1st
      some of you guys sound like you're happy about it. How can you call yourself a true boxing fans? If ratings are't good and the shows get canceled then guess what? And all this complaining about the "best not fighting the best". It's always been like that. Ali didn't fight foreman and frazier every couple of months you know? There were quite a few "journey men" in there too. It's a business and you need to build those bigger fights with the ones we see on free tv. Stop complaining about numbers that have nothing to do with you or your wallet and start watching these fights. Don't listen to fatboy rafael. If you didn't watch wilder last weekend then you missed seeing him tested and possibly develop into what could be a great american heavyweight.
      right on brother! I'm with you 100% good post! Support the pbc shows.

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        #43
        Originally posted by johnnycontrolet
        Looks like a press release of Haymon`s PR staff....The ratings are so far ridiculous for major networks
        Just like every other front page 'article' on PBC. They are all direct press releases and should be marked as such.

        Originally posted by LarryXXX
        Great for boxing.........no matter if the ratings are falling or not,thats more eyes on boxing then it would usually receive and more boxing for me to watch
        Bad ratings mean that eventually when the time buy runs out, that boxing will vanish from television. So you damn well better care what the ratings are!

        Originally posted by LarryXXX
        who gives a ****?? be a damn boxing fan and just enjoy the fights
        We want decent fights to watch, not the crap PBC are putting out there. If someone offered you a free sandwich made from stale bread and moldy cheese, would you eat it just because it was free?

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          #44
          Originally posted by HURTFEELINGS
          Lol, lil g has been fighting nobodies on HBO for two years, complete mismatches...that wasnt quality, so we know youre lying. You may not like mayweather but he put the asses in the seats for boxing. What would the NFL be if people only tuned in for offensive teams, what would soccer be if they were only watched because of strictly offensive teams or any sport for that matter, but boxing...criticizes the only person who's bringing in the casuals or people that are willing to pay to watch boxing, wheres the offensive guys boxing ppv #'s...they dont exist. Yet we have to wonder why boxing is doing so bad. no one knows whats going to happen in a boxing match but people arent even tuning in to see if its going to be an interesting or squash match, they dont even tune in to see if its noncompetitive or not. So you cant blame that for people not watching. Its not gonna be Hagler vs Hearns every time out but some of you think its supposed to be that way every fight. Thats not how boxing works. and by the way, there is no santa claus or easter bunny.
          You do realize that for casual fans, Golovkin himself was a nobody? He has spent the last few years building up his name in the American boxing world. Now that he is well known to the point where fighters in the UK and Ward in the US are dropping his name to get media attention, I'm sure his competition will take a turn for the better. After all... they can no longer use the excuse that no one has heard of GGG or that he is not a draw or fan favourite now, can they?

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            #45
            Originally posted by LarryXXX
            who is Lemiex's best win that makes him not an unamed bum?
            Again just stop it's not me telling you he is not a unnamed bum it's every credible boxing website or boxing ranking. He's a top ranked middleweight who has a world title. Comparing him to the unranked unknown bums PBC trouts out makes you look foolish. Guys you have never heard of or seen before. You know who Lemieux is he has a fanbase he's headlined HBO broadcasts in the past and he's a world champ. I can name numerous PBC fights where the opponents are none of this.
            Last edited by bigdunny1; 10-01-2015, 02:33 PM.

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              #46
              Originally posted by pugil1st
              Some of you guys sound like you're happy about it. How can you call yourself a true boxing fans? If ratings are't good and the shows get canceled then guess what? And all this complaining about the "best not fighting the best". It's ALWAYS been like that. Ali didn't fight Foreman and Frazier every couple of months you know? There were quite a few "journey men" in there too. It's a business and you need to build those bigger fights with the ones we see on free TV. Stop complaining about numbers that have nothing to do with you or your wallet and start watching these fights. Don't listen to fatboy Rafael. If you didn't watch Wilder last weekend then you missed seeing him tested and possibly develop into what could be a great American heavyweight.
              Exactly! These whiny ass little girls find anything to complain about. No way they can be boxing fans, or else they forgot how uneventful many of the past years for boxing were. Every time someone tries to do something to shake up the game like the Super 6 a bunch of cry babies come out and whine about how it could have been done better.

              Did any of these little girls even bother to watch the Tuesday night fight? Great undercard on there with Dolton vs Molina. The same morons spend all day complaining about Tarver vs Cunningham and ignore possible FOTY huck vs Glowacki on the undercard. One thing I've noticed is the PBC matchmaker is very good and these undercards often times outshine the main event. I thought that Ruiz vs Ceja was even better back and forth action than Mares vs Santa Cruz.

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              • bigdunny1
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                #47
                Originally posted by LarryXXX
                That bums resume is better then Lemiuex and GGG's
                That's debatable and we are not talking about his resume we talking about where he was in his career and whether that warranted a PPV fight against Mayweather which we all know is a huge NO. Berto's washed and not ranked by anyone creditable. He had decent resume as a young undefeated fighter on the rise what 5 years ago before he stepped up in opponents and was exposed was destroyed by Ortiz, Guerrero, Soto Karass. 3 losses in his last 5 fights and had only beaten 2 weak opponents before the Mayweather fight. GGG, Lemieux are not washed up fighters and both are world champs and top ranked again things Berto is not. A unification fight against 2 top 5 ranked fighters in the division > 95% of the crap PBC puts out.
                Last edited by bigdunny1; 10-01-2015, 02:35 PM.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Barcham
                  Just like every other front page 'article' on PBC. They are all direct press releases and should be marked as such.



                  Bad ratings mean that eventually when the time buy runs out, that boxing will vanish from television. So you damn well better care what the ratings are!



                  We want decent fights to watch, not the crap PBC are putting out there. If someone offered you a free sandwich made from stale bread and moldy cheese, would you eat it just because it was free?
                  Watch the undercard you silly ho bag. The Main card is more to establish the Brands stable of premier fighters. If you didn't notice casual fans buy fights based off of names. Ronda Rousey has had a mismatch in every fight, yet still sells over 1mil PPV with a BS undercard. You got no understanding of the business sugar ****, go take your community college business degree and wipe your dogs crusty sphincter with it you cry baby.

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                  • brownplayboy310
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by bigdunny1
                    That's debatable and we are not talking about his resume we talking about where he was in his career and whether that warranted a PPV fight against Mayweather which we all know is a huge NO. Berto's washed and not ranked by anyone creditable. He had decent resume as a young undefeated fighter on the rise what 5 years ago before he stepped up in opponents and was exposed was destroyed by Ortiz, Guerrero, Soto Karass. 3 losses in his last 5 fights and had only beaten 2 weak opponents before the Mayweather fight. GGG, Lemieux are not washed up fighters and both are world champs and top ranked again things Berto is not. A unification fight against 2 top 5 ranked fighters in the division > 95% of the crap PBC puts out.

                    You do realize that you can enjoy One without ****ting on the other. I bet you Huck vs Glowacki ends up being a better fight that Lemieux vs GGG.

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by bigdunny1
                      ESPN decides what games they want for Monday Night Football MONTHS before the season even starts before the games are played and before we know which teams are good. Terrible comparison. PBC knows which fighters are good and STILL puts on crap fights. Too many fights that on paper are gross mismatches against unranked fighters that fans have not asked for. You can cry all you want but most boxing fans see through this and it's a major reason why boxing fans have been saying NO to PBC and the ratings reflect this. Not only are hardcore boxing fans saying these fights are crap but casual fans could care less. You want to say it's free so just watch crap and be quiet. First it's not free ESPN, Spike, FoxSports1 and about 90% of the fights PBC airs are on paid cable. Second the vast majority of the fights on paper are terrible fights fans don't want to see. Quality over Quantity.
                      What are you talking about? PBC has aired the top 2 FOTY candidates and at least 5-6 other very good fights. What has HBO given us?

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