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Boxing has the worst fans in sports. No fans of any other sport would whine about their favorite sport being on network TV and ESPN.HBO frequently puts on squashes....see lil g. nothing but mismatches, his team turned down a fight with Ward. But all in all boxing is not as big as people think it is. If youre a boxing fan you watch boxing but the numbers have proved that boxing is not as big as you guys like to think it is. You guys turn down free boxing and hope other people will tune in to watch. HBO has mis-matches on every boadcast and you pay for it. So numbers dont lie and boxing just dont have enough fans to support it if you go by the numbers. Either support it or dont, but dont complain if these so-called Hardcore boxing fans are not supporting boxing. It just doesnt have enough fans, Floyd brought in fans consistently and he was criticized for it, and now boxing will pay for it. Boxing cant give away boxing for free, its a sign.
Just ignore the "hardcore" fans and the pundits like that clown Dan Rafael. The same people who ****e all over fighters like Wilder told us all that David Price was going to be the next big thing in boxing. They don't know ****e. Most of these people are grumpy blowhards. They're the reason casuals get tired of boxing.
Support the PBC, support TR on TruTV, let's grow the sport guys.Comment
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Not true at all. No matter how you try and spin it the ratings are bad side by side with every network comparible. And the cost PBC is spending dwarfs the cost of reruns of cops and other network programing that gets comparible or better ratings. PBC is an expensive product but gets worse ratings that have steadily declined since it debuted. Fact it's not building an audience, ratings say people are running away and leaving.Comment
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The promoters should be growing the sport by putting on competitve fights. I don't see how the fans are at fault because they complain about fights like quillin vs zerafa or Canelo va Kirkland. The reality is boxing has always given the fans the worst quality of any sport because of how it's organized, I think it's understandable why some people are sick of it. When boxing delivers, nothing beats it. The problem is, it rarely does and the people at the top are to blame because of how they manoeuvre fighters.Comment
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Yeah a unification fight among 2 highly rated exciting middleweight world champs and the entire under card is stacked. I'll gladly pay the ppv for this then crap like Mayweather vs berto or watch for free the mismatch of the week from PBC with one name fighter against a no named unranked fighter. Quality over quantityComment
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Lol, lil g has been fighting nobodies on HBO for two years, complete mismatches...that wasnt quality, so we know youre lying. You may not like mayweather but he put the asses in the seats for boxing. What would the NFL be if people only tuned in for offensive teams, what would soccer be if they were only watched because of strictly offensive teams or any sport for that matter, but boxing...criticizes the only person who's bringing in the casuals or people that are willing to pay to watch boxing, wheres the offensive guys boxing ppv #'s...they dont exist. Yet we have to wonder why boxing is doing so bad. no one knows whats going to happen in a boxing match but people arent even tuning in to see if its going to be an interesting or squash match, they dont even tune in to see if its noncompetitive or not. So you cant blame that for people not watching. Its not gonna be Hagler vs Hearns every time out but some of you think its supposed to be that way every fight. Thats not how boxing works. and by the way, there is no santa claus or easter bunny.
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lolBesides the bad ratings what is not heavily reported on is the lawsuits aimed at Haymon and PBC. The same one that fans told me no worry it will be thrown out of court. Sent back to arbitrator. Well look what the judge said. This almost guarantees that some of the shady things Haymon is doing will be exposed to the public. Unless there is a settlement where he pays GB out the arse. The lawsuits are more troubling for PBC then the down spiral of ratings.
Judge's ruling could force answers to how Al Haymon's Premier Boxing
By Lance Pugmire
Powerful boxing manager Al Haymon’s attempt to move Oscar De La Hoya’s $300-million antitrust lawsuit against him out of the courts and toward a potential settlement in arbitration was denied this week by a federal judge.
The denial followed a similar decision by an arbitrator who has presided over De La Hoya’s split with his former Chief Executive Richard Schaefer and Haymon, and sets up the possibility of depositions, discovery exchanges and other details about how Haymon’s Premier Boxing Champions operates.
Haymon manages Floyd Mayweather Jr. and several other high-profile fighters who split with Golden Boy this year, including unbeaten fighters Deontay Wilder, Leo Santa Cruz, Keith Thurman and Danny Garcia.
PBC started staging fights in March and has time-buy deals to have cards televised by NBC, ABC, CBS and ESPN, among others.
“Everything is going to come out,” said veteran fight promoter Bob Arum, whose Top Rank Inc. is also suing Haymon.
Haymon has a policy to not speak to reporters.
De La Hoya’s Golden Boy Promotions is suing Haymon, the creator of PBC, for alleged violations of the federal Muhammad Ali Act that forbids a boxing manager from operating simultaneously as a fight promoter.
Haymon has retained promoters such as TGB Promotions in Sherman Oaks and Lou DiBella in New York to handle the promotions of various PBC cards, but Golden Boy claims in its lawsuit that Haymon is paying those promoters a small fee and actually directing fighter purses himself.
In addition to the backing of a Kansas asset management company, Waddell & Reed, PBC is backed by other shareholders who could be identified as a result of the ruling in the Los Angeles court of U.S. Central District Court Judge John F. Walter.
Emails and other exchanges that reveal how PBC conducts business are also expected to be sought by those suing Haymon.
Arum sued Haymon earlier this year, alleging his practices intend to monopolize the sport. Arum lost former middleweight champion Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. to a settlement with PBC and is fighting in court to keep unbeaten super-featherweight champion Mikey Garcia from fleeing to PBC.
In his Tuesday ruling, Walter supported a Sept. 1 decision by arbitrator and retired judge Daniel H. Weinstein that determining the alleged antitrust actions “are not within the scope of the arbitration provision and that those claims are not presently arbitrable.”
Walter also scolded Haymon’s attorneys.
Although “the court was confident that defendants’ counsel would realize that the motion was now moot and withdraw it to avoid wasting judicial resources, counsel made the puzzling decision to pursue the motion and raised patently frivolous arguments in the reply,” Walter wrote.
Attorneys for Golden Boy Promotions and PBC did not immediately respond to interview requests from The Times.
Arum said Haymon’s attorneys have moved to dismiss his $100-million lawsuit filed on the same grounds as De La Hoya’s, but said the motion “has no chance.”
The process is simply now, apparently, going into discovery phase, against what was envisioned by Haymon and his lawyers. Still, no matter.
Haymon can easily bring up the case of Mikey Garcia, a young, prime fighter who is seeing his career deliberately shelved by Top Rank for the offense of asking about the revenues on his fights, or 'Canelo' Alvarez, who only ended up with Golden Boy after a seemingly underhanded pattern of stealing fighters from smaller companies, among other dirt, to kill the shakedown then.
For all the efforts to drudge up and push the lawsuits against Haymon, Top Rank and Golden Boy are ****ed when Haymon and his affiliates decide to counter-sue; DiBella getting openly shafted by HBO/Top Rank and their deliberately anti-competitive practices, Golden Boy currently facing at least three cases of their attempts to poach fighters with valid contracts elsewhere, etc.
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Hell yeah!! A bunch of new upcoming prospects, contenders, and champions that i never saw or even heard of because they didnt have the big network push and am now getting chance to see...LOVE IT!!Comment
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Where's the quality? Outside of the upcoming Cotto-Alvarez fight, how many quality shows have been put on outside of PBC?
In terms of quantity and quality Showtime/PBC are crushing HBO's programming on both counts (Showtime almost accomplishes that feat when only counting their own programming, but adding PBC makes things embarrassing).
HBO is literally going to charge $60HD for a 15:1 fight, with no qualms at all. lolComment
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Thanks to Mayweather, Pacquaio and Haymon.Comment
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