Could Someone Explain To Me why Golovkin Is So Highly Ranked?

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  • ИATAS
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    #11
    Highly ranked in what? There are two different rankings at play here: indivusual weight class rankings and pound 4 pound rankings.

    Weight class rankings are based on resume and obviously, who else is in the division. Currently Golovkin is ranked #1 behind only Champion Cotto. This is absolutely correct.

    Pound for pound rankings are subjective. It's usually based more on how skillful a person thinks a fighter is versus resume (or typically a combination of both).

    Clearly we have entered a time in boxing where a lot of the former top pound 4 pound guys have fallen off (Floyd retired, Pacquiao is old, Marquez is retired/old, Bradley is getting draws against guys like Chaves), etc. So the landscape is a little funny with the old guard fading away and the new guard rising to the top. It's allowed for guys like Chocolatito to shoot up to #1. Golovkin, while he doesn't have a great resume, he has been dominating his division and almost everyone believes he's one of the best fighters in the sport. Thus the high P4P ranking.

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    • Rudiamonds
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      #12
      The guys ranked higter then kolvel for crying out loud

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        #13
        Originally posted by BOXEO _
        He passes the eye test
        Exactly that.

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          #14
          Originally posted by DoubleStandar
          I would be a bad mother***er if i faced the ****er who cleans my car or the ***er that cleans my clothes or even better a bum from the beach of cancun.
          yeah that what the all say until they get hit in the face!

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          • rajaomair
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            #15
            Originally posted by DoubleStandar
            * Has only defeated 1 former World Champion (Daniel Geale)
            * Has Never defeated an unbeaten fighter ( i dont count a bum named makarov)
            * Has never defeated a current world champion
            * Has Never beaten a Top 20 or even top 30 ranked oppponent

            This guy scky rockets to the top with that resume and Wladimir klitschko who has faced better opposition is below him??? i dont get it. What has this guy done to be P4P?
            ALL WRONG, let me educate you,

            1. He has defeated 3 not 1 former champs (Geale, Ouma, Murray)

            2. He has defeated 4 undefeated fighters (go look at boxrec)

            3. Murray was current unified champ if it wasn't for blatant robberies + NOW Lemiux then mando for Cotto-Canelo then Lee said "lets do it"

            4. He has beaten 8 top10, forget about 20,30. These r top10. goto https://archive.org/web/ and use waybackmachine and check RING, espn, tbrb and boxrec rankings. go on get busy. He is literally cleaning out the whole division

            5. He is only 6 defenses short of breaking B-hops record defenses which will take about 1.5 year

            6. He has never even been down in about 400 fights let alone out.

            7. Amateur record of 345-5 with gold in World championship and silver in Olympics.

            8. And now, Boxers that ducked/ducking GGG

            1---Felix sturm - wouldn't fight him for over 2 years when GGG was mandatory.

            2---Peter quillin - said he will only fight for the may-pac kind of money, lol

            3---Sergio martinez - "His promoter said that "no way I am putting him with this monster"

            4---Hassaan ndam njikam -When Hassaan was WBO champ, he was ordered to a purse bid to face Golovkin no less than two times and he was a no show each time.

            5---Miguel cotto - didn't want to fight him despite being mandatory.

            6---Julio cesar chavez jr - Turned down 12mil offer by TR

            7---Saul alvarez - Thinks that he is fighting at the weight-class of 155, as there is no such thing as a "155 weight-class" ,he is pretending to be not in the MW division because of GGG.There are 17 divisions just pick one, if you can't make 154 then you are a MW, simple.

            8---Carl froch - After calling GGG out then when GGG accepted ,he backed down and now he is retired after making all the fuss, GGG was calling him for more than a year so no excuses for "retiring".

            9---Andrea Ward. The diva of the 168lb division don't want to travel or meet the a-side GGG in a catchweight so he can become a good boy and get ktfo. Was willing to goto 160 for Floyd but when GGG said 164, Ward ducked. + he was fine when Dawson came down a whole division for him but wont move half a division for GGG, smh

            10---Sebastian Sylvester - When Sylvester was IBF champ, he ducked GGG blatantly

            11---Darren Barker - When Barker defeated Geale to become IBF champ, his promoter openly said that Barker will fight any1 except GGG
            Last edited by rajaomair; 09-30-2015, 03:20 AM.

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              #16
              Originally posted by rajaomair
              ALL WRONG, let me educate you,

              1. He has defeated 3 not 1 former champs (Geale, Ouma, Murray)

              2. He has defeated 4 undefeated fighters (go look at boxrec)

              3. Murray was current unified champ if it wasn't for blatant robberies + NOW Lemiux then mando for Cotto-Canelo then Lee said "lets do it"He

              4. He has beaten 8 top10, forget about 20,30. Teese r top10. goto https://archive.org/web/ and use waybackmachine and check RING, espn, tbrb and boxrec rankings. go on get busy

              5. He is only 6 defenses short of breaking B-hops record defenses which will take about 1.5 year

              6. And now, Boxers that ducked/ducking GGG

              1---Felix sturm - wouldn't fight him for over 2 years when GGG was mandatory.

              2---Peter quillin - said he will only fight for the may-pac kind of money, lol

              3---Sergio martinez - "His promoter said that "no way I am putting him with this monster"

              4---Hassaan ndam njikam -When Hassaan was WBO champ, he was ordered to a purse bid to face Golovkin no less than two times and he was a no show each time.

              5---Miguel cotto - didn't want to fight him despite being mandatory.

              6---Julio cesar chavez jr - Turned down 12mil offer by TR

              7---Saul alvarez - Thinks that he is fighting at the weight-class of 155, as there is no such thing as a "155 weight-class" ,he is pretending to be not in the MW division because of GGG.There are 17 divisions just pick one, if you can't make 154 then you are a MW, simple.

              8---Carl froch - After calling GGG out then when GGG accepted ,he backed down and now he is retired after making all the fuss, GGG was calling him for more than a year so no excuses for "retiring".

              9---Andrea Ward. The diva of the 168lb division don't want to travel or meet the a-side GGG in a catchweight so he can become a good boy and get ktfo. Was willing to goto 160 for Floyd but when GGG said 164, Ward ducked.

              10---Sebastian Sylvester - When Sylvester was IBF champ, he ducked GGG blatantly

              11---Darren Barker - When Barker defeated Geale to become IBF champ, his promoter openly said that Barker will fight any1 except GGG
              Preach the word my brother!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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              • -Kev-
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                #17
                1. He is an undefeated KO artist. Journalists love KO artists.

                2. He destroyed Murray, Rubio, Geale, Murray, Stevens, Rosado, Monroe Jr, Proksa, Adama, and Ishida.

                You might be looking at that list and saying "Okay?"...Yeah, me too.

                But what are you gonna do, the guy is the best Middleweight(MW is such a badass, exciting weight class, with crazy exciting match ups they say). And going up to 168 would be going up to a bad weight class, no good matches there, they say. Golovkin vs DeGale, Jack, Abraham, Dirrell, Ramirez would be bad match ups(Because they would be too 50-50 ish). Rather GGG vs Lemiuex, Lee, Saunders are better because we know they would end in a KO and we don't know who would win, they say.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by rajaomair
                  4. He has beaten 8 top10, forget about 20,30. Teese r top10. goto https://archive.org/web/ and use waybackmachine and check RING, espn, tbrb and boxrec rankings. go on get busy. He is literally cleaning out the whole division
                  No idea where the misconception comes from that he hasn't fought any top 10 guys (a flat out lie by OP?). Pretty much all of his opponents are top 10 guys besides Rosado who was moving up and a stay busy fight or two. He's consistently fighting the highest ranked available opponents.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by DoubleStandar
                    * Has only defeated 1 former World Champion (Daniel Geale)
                    * Has Never defeated an unbeaten fighter ( i dont count a bum named makarov)
                    * Has never defeated a current world champion
                    * Has Never beaten a Top 20 or even top 30 ranked oppponent

                    This guy scky rockets to the top with that resume and Wladimir klitschko who has faced better opposition is below him??? i dont get it. What has this guy done to be P4P?
                    he knocks mfkas out every fight that's pretty much why but his resume isn't the best... resumes only matter for certain fighters

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by DoubleStandar
                      * Has only defeated 1 former World Champion (Daniel Geale)
                      * Has Never defeated an unbeaten fighter ( i dont count a bum named makarov)
                      * Has never defeated a current world champion
                      * Has Never beaten a Top 20 or even top 30 ranked oppponent

                      This guy scky rockets to the top with that resume and Wladimir klitschko who has faced better opposition is below him??? i dont get it. What has this guy done to be P4P?
                      So a unbeaten fighter means something huh?

                      Well guess what...GGG, IS UNBEATEN!!!!!!!!!!!

                      self ownage!!!! lmfao

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