Manny Pacquiao has 11.8 years straight on the Ring's P4P list

[Left Hook Tua]

Exactly! Good post. This is why I don't really rate a guy like Klitschko in p4p discussions. If all things were even, and he didn't have a size advantage he would have an extremely hard time beating true p4p fighters.

if the heavyweights he fought were his size he'd have had a harder time.

imagine 6'6 lamon brewster, or 6'6 sam peter or 6'6 alex povetkin or 6'6 eddie chambers, etc.

[Left Hook Tua]

A smaller Wlad would be like Postol, but with twice as much power. I'd venture he'd do more than okay.

wlad would do good.

but he remember his height, reach is a major advantage in most his fights.

[NEETzsche]

wlad would do good.

but he remember his height, reach is a major advantage in most his fights.

don't forget that it's "pound-for-pound" not "inch-for-inch". wlad's height advantage must hypothetically transfer into any p4p comparisons

[Left Hook Tua]

don't forget that it's "pound-for-pound" not "inch-for-inch". wlad's height advantage must hypothetically transfer into any p4p comparisons

so he'll be a 5'10 flyweight?

forget china chin, talk about china body.


i'm pretty sure P4P is based on skill and other intagibles plus power, speed factored by division.

i think by "same size" that includes height, reach not just weight.

[Weebler I]

so he'll be a 5'10 flyweight?

forget china chin, talk about china body.


i'm pretty sure P4P is based on skill and other intagibles plus power, speed factored by division.

i think by "same size" that includes height, reach not just weight.

I would've thought same size really meant if they were all in the same weight class, not if they lost their physical attributes.

If any fighter loses physical attributes they're not the same fighter.

[imperial1]

Amazing all the ring wars being ktfo and then coming back ..

This guy is really the best fighter of this era considering the classic bouts he has given to boxing ..I mean who could forget his first fight with Marquez and his last..Insane number of hard fought rds

[RED REP]

pacquiao started his career in complete third world poverty struggling to get by day to day. he truly had to work his way to #1 the HARD WAY. a true inspiration to all peoples everywhere.

Pull your tongue out of his arsehole you MELT!

[Beercules]

Pacquiao is TBE.

[Kuyukut]

donnie 'the pogi' nietes the real tbe!

[Eff Pandas]

Respect to Manny.

Definitely agree with how P4P tends to work Gonzalez at #1 seems a bit much. I personally believe P4P should shift more after close decisions or bad performances not just L's, but it seems like its much more gradual movements being made with it. That being the case it seems like Wlad or Rigo or even Manny or Ward should have taken the #1 spot with Floyd's retirement or whoever Ring has highly ranked with more championship experience. Although I guess its a whole lot simpler for Ring if Gonzales was #2 then if Floyd retires he's #1 isn't he.