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  • Jubei
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    #21
    If that guy cant fight in Canada then whats stopping them from making it in the US?

    Let's just guess which shot fighter Haymon is putting up for Beterbiev now

    Sakio Bika?

    Tommy Karpency?

    Haymon Defense Force rather not see a fight at all than having the fight in the United States. You guys are some boxing fans.

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    • Weebler I
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      #22
      It was surprising to me that Main Events agreed to this fight in first place.

      It's an eliminator for a title that Main Events already hold with Kovalev, what's in it for Barrera or Main Events?

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        #23
        Originally posted by SchoolTheseCats
        You can't be serious, they want to stage the fight in a 20k arena, beterbiev from Montreal he has the fans, you always defending duva the kunt she needs to win purse bid then and be able to dictate terms
        but barrera can't legally fight in canada right now. it's usa or nothing. once again haymon fans are rooting for a fight to not happen

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          #24
          If Yunieski Gonzalez is really next in line and is willing to take the bout, I'd prefer Beterbiev v Gonzalez.

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          • kej718
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            #25
            Originally posted by Weebler I
            It was surprising to me that Main Events agreed to this fight in first place.

            It's an eliminator for a title that Main Events already hold with Kovalev, what's in it for Barrera or Main Events?
            This could have easily been Beterbiev vs Chilemba but Main events is trying to get Stevensons belt without him having to face Kovalev, and PBC is trying to do the same the other way around, but they have more options and fighters that can make it happen. It's like a chess game they are playing and Haymon seems to be a few steps ahead of everyone else.

            They could have negotiated Beterbiev vs Kovalev, but could make more money if he is the mandatory and can force him to either vacate his belt or fight off HBO.

            How will fans feel if Beterbiev becomes the mandatory and Main Events does not show up to that purse bid after trying to force an eliminator? How will they feel if Kovalev vacates his title instead of facing Beterbiev?

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            • kej718
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              #26
              Originally posted by Jubei
              If that guy cant fight in Canada then whats stopping them from making it in the US?

              Let's just guess which shot fighter Haymon is putting up for Beterbiev now

              Sakio Bika?

              Tommy Karpency?

              Haymon Defense Force rather not see a fight at all than having the fight in the United States. You guys are some boxing fans.
              Money that's what is stopping them. If they win the purse bid then they decide the terms. Duva doesn't want to put up the money for this or show up to a purse bid for Stevenson vs Kovalev.

              These are the rankings
              1. NOT RATED
              2. Artur Beterbiev
              3. Bernard Hopkins
              4. Erik Skoglund
              5. Andrzej Fonfara
              6. Sean Monaghan
              7. Jean Pascal
              8. Sullivan Barrera
              9. Eleider Alvarez
              10. Nadjib Mohammedi
              11. Yuniesky Gonzalez
              12. Edwin Rodriguez

              13. Igor Mikhalkin
              14. Karo Murat
              15. Thomas Williams Jr.

              Look at how many fighters passed on the fight before Barrera. Chilemba was ranked but went for the WBC title instead. We could have had Beterbiev vs Chilemba and saved everyone a lot of time, but you know why that fight won't happen. I think we end up getting Beterbiev vs Rodriguez, and then Barrera vs Gonzalez for the next mandatory.

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              • Weebler I
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                #27
                Originally posted by kej718
                This could have easily been Beterbiev vs Chilemba but Main events is trying to get Stevensons belt without him having to face Kovalev, and PBC is trying to do the same the other way around, but they have more options and fighters that can make it happen. It's like a chess game they are playing and Haymon seems to be a few steps ahead of everyone else.

                They could have negotiated Beterbiev vs Kovalev, but could make more money if he is the mandatory and can force him to either vacate his belt or fight off HBO.
                That fight makes no sense for Main Events either though. Why have Chilemba fight an eliminator with Beterbiev when they could make the Chilemba-Kovalev fight any time they want?

                How will fans feel if Beterbiev becomes the mandatory and Main Events does not show up to that purse bid after trying to force an eliminator? How will they feel if Kovalev vacates his title instead of facing Beterbiev?
                I don't see that happening.

                But to answer the question, they should feel the same way as when Beterbiev turned down the fight in Russia in November, but of course it would be made into a much bigger deal.

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                • Eastcoast
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Weebler I
                  It was surprising to me that Main Events agreed to this fight in first place.

                  It's an eliminator for a title that Main Events already hold with Kovalev, what's in it for Barrera or Main Events?
                  If Barrera beats Beterbiev, then he's suddenly a quality opponent for Kovalev who badly needs such.

                  If Chilemba knocks of Alvarez as expected, he's a dangerous risk for Stevenson and that could force GYM/Haymon to finally come to the table and make the Kovalev fight.

                  As is, neither Chilemba or Barrera are very sellable opponents to HBO for Kovalev. They might give him tough fights, but he wouldn't receive much credit for them. These fights not only give ME good paydays for those two, but gives them a chance to improve their stock.

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                    #29
                    Duva & her fighters always sounding like the cat at McDonald's trying to order 2 chicken mcnuggets for 50 cents with fight negotiations.

                    This seems like some simple ****. Whoever wins the purse bid decides where the fight is. This Barrera mfer needs to figure his legal **** out, Duva needs to win the purse bid or he should be pushed to the side. There isn't anything else that should be on the table.

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                    • Eastcoast
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Eff Pandas
                      Duva & her fighters always sounding like the cat at McDonald's trying to order 2 chicken mcnuggets for 50 cents with fight negotiations.

                      This seems like some simple ****. Whoever wins the purse bid decides where the fight is. This Barrera mfer needs to figure his legal **** out, Duva needs to win the purse bid or he should be pushed to the side. There isn't anything else that should be on the table.
                      Barrera's visa issues with entering Canada only just came up when they accepted IBF's request to make the fight. That said, rather than negotiate, once they learned of the situation GYM/Haymon once again ordered an immediate purse bid in order to kill the fight. Barrera represents a tough challenge to Beterbiev and it's looking like GYM/Haymon don't want the risk vs an out-of-house fighter.

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